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> Why are you putting severe in quotation marks? Because I don't know the official terminology. >What makes you feel qualified to give medical advice on an In

> Why are you putting severe in quotation marks? Because I don't know the official terminology. >What makes you feel qualified to give medical advice on an Internet forum? Because of where I work I have been given "primary sources", but of course you are free to not believe me. This is my own sentiment, feel free to look things up yourself. > no official guidelines exist. Only internet stories. Not in the US, maybe, but such guidelines definitely exist where I live. Again, you do you

neuronic 7y ago
If any official source, regardless of country, recommends to abstain from ibuprofen I would simply like to know. I neither live in the US nor think that scientists and medical personnel in other country are less educated or trained. I think it's about distinguishing important information from stuff people randomly write online because a non-peer reviewed study made a hypothesis. The goal is for everyone around the globe to be as safe as possible and misinformation in the context of medical advice is not helpful. Of course it's better not to take ibuprofen, in any case. But some people may rely on it or other NSAIDs.
- throwawayy477 7y ago
  First hit on google "coronavirus ibuprofen" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammat... >French authorities have warned that widely used over-the-counter anti-inflammatory drugs may worsen the coronavirus. >The country’s health minister, Olivier Véran, who is a qualified doctor and neurologist, tweeted on Saturday: “The taking of anti-inflammatories [ibuprofen, cortisone … ] could be a factor in aggravating the infection. In case of fever, take paracetamol. If you are already taking anti-inflammatory drugs, ask your doctor’s advice.” This is HN right? I'm sure when you find an ImportError you know how to look things up on SO, how come people have trouble transferring this very simple knowledge-learning process to other domains?
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- guerrilla 7y ago
  > If any official source, regardless of country, recommends to abstain from ibuprofen I would simply like to know. It's headline news at the moment. You could just check. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammat...
  - exdsq 7y ago
    The reason it's headline news at the moment is because some minister tweeted about the lancet letter this thread is talking about. It's a letter that's not gone through peer review which definitely shouldn't be taken as an official source! Numerous doctors on Twitter have come out and said we shouldn't listen to it too. Examples: https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1238806682458882049 https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1238806682458882049 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1238946937916682241 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/12389469379166822...
    - guerrilla 7y ago
      That the advice of an official is unfounded doesn't mean there wasn't official advice which was what was in question not its veracity.
      - exdsq 7y ago
        I'd strongly argue a minister tweeting, even when it is the health minister, isn't official advice in the sense of national guidelines. I actually think he was incredibly stupid for tweeting that - he should know better than to write what would obviously cause a media stir based on an open non-reviewed letter.
exdsq 7y ago
If you're a medical professional and you've seen numerous papers or reports coming in that ibuprofen is a factor in the severity of Covid-19, why do you need to use a throw away account? Why can't you say where this information has come from? I've seen this topic shot down by doctors on Twitter - a throw away account quoting "primary sources" is unlikely to convince many of us! Can you expand with something a bit more concrete? For example, where are these guidelines that are saying not to us ibuprofen?
fragmede 7y ago
It's unclear if English is your first language or not, but in case there is confusion resulting from this, quotation marks around a word is sometimes used to indicate sarcasm. In this context, it could be read that you don't believe that Covid-19 is at all serious - that the effects are "no worse than the flu". I don't know if you believe that, or if that is your intention, but there are some that are claiming this pandemic is a 'media hoax'. As you can imagine, that is a very emotionally expensive viewpoint to have to fight, especially when it's an at-risk loved one who is making that claim.

neuronic 7y ago

If any official source, regardless of country, recommends to abstain from ibuprofen I would simply like to know. I neither live in the US nor think that scientists and medical personnel in other country are less educated or trained. I think it's about distinguishing important information from stuff people randomly write online because a non-peer reviewed study made a hypothesis. The goal is for everyone around the globe to be as safe as possible and misinformation in the context of medical advice is not helpful. Of course it's better not to take ibuprofen, in any case. But some people may rely on it or other NSAIDs.

throwawayy477 7y ago
First hit on google "coronavirus ibuprofen" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammat... >French authorities have warned that widely used over-the-counter anti-inflammatory drugs may worsen the coronavirus. >The country’s health minister, Olivier Véran, who is a qualified doctor and neurologist, tweeted on Saturday: “The taking of anti-inflammatories [ibuprofen, cortisone … ] could be a factor in aggravating the infection. In case of fever, take paracetamol. If you are already taking anti-inflammatory drugs, ask your doctor’s advice.” This is HN right? I'm sure when you find an ImportError you know how to look things up on SO, how come people have trouble transferring this very simple knowledge-learning process to other domains?
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guerrilla 7y ago
> If any official source, regardless of country, recommends to abstain from ibuprofen I would simply like to know. It's headline news at the moment. You could just check. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammat...
- exdsq 7y ago
  The reason it's headline news at the moment is because some minister tweeted about the lancet letter this thread is talking about. It's a letter that's not gone through peer review which definitely shouldn't be taken as an official source! Numerous doctors on Twitter have come out and said we shouldn't listen to it too. Examples: https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1238806682458882049 https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1238806682458882049 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1238946937916682241 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/12389469379166822...
  - guerrilla 7y ago
    That the advice of an official is unfounded doesn't mean there wasn't official advice which was what was in question not its veracity.
    - exdsq 7y ago
      I'd strongly argue a minister tweeting, even when it is the health minister, isn't official advice in the sense of national guidelines. I actually think he was incredibly stupid for tweeting that - he should know better than to write what would obviously cause a media stir based on an open non-reviewed letter.

exdsq 7y ago

If you're a medical professional and you've seen numerous papers or reports coming in that ibuprofen is a factor in the severity of Covid-19, why do you need to use a throw away account? Why can't you say where this information has come from? I've seen this topic shot down by doctors on Twitter - a throw away account quoting "primary sources" is unlikely to convince many of us! Can you expand with something a bit more concrete? For example, where are these guidelines that are saying not to us ibuprofen?

fragmede 7y ago

It's unclear if English is your first language or not, but in case there is confusion resulting from this, quotation marks around a word is sometimes used to indicate sarcasm. In this context, it could be read that you don't believe that Covid-19 is at all serious - that the effects are "no worse than the flu". I don't know if you believe that, or if that is your intention, but there are some that are claiming this pandemic is a 'media hoax'. As you can imagine, that is a very emotionally expensive viewpoint to have to fight, especially when it's an at-risk loved one who is making that claim.