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The actual title of this article is, "Are patients with hypertension and diabetes mellitus at increased risk for COVID-19 infection?" The relevant portion abou
by geofft 7y ago
The actual title of this article is, "Are patients with hypertension and diabetes mellitus at increased risk for COVID-19 infection?"
The relevant portion about ibuprofen, lightly edited to make it more readable, is:
> Coronaviruses bind to their target cells through ACE2. The expression of ACE2 is substantially increased in patients with diabetes, who are treated with ACE inhibitors and ARBs. Hypertension is also treated with ACE inhibitors and ARBs, which results in an upregulation of ACE2. ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen. These data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19. We therefore hypothesise that diabetes and hypertension treatment with ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19.
More broadly, they're saying that many of the medical notes of patients who died mentioned that the patients also had diabetes or hypertension, and they're wondering if the correlation is about the treatment for those conditions and not about the conditions themselves.
It's not clear to me whether they're implying that anyone who takes ibuprofen (e.g. for a headache or even for a COVID-19 fever) will have more ACE2 and therefore be more susceptible to severe and fatal COVID-19, or if that effect only happens in the context of treatment for diabetes and hypertension. I can see how you can read it in the first way, but it feels like they would have titled it clearer if that were what they were actually saying.
In particular, there is plenty of advice for people with mild COVID-19 cases to do the normal things they'd do to take care of a flu at home, including take ibuprofen. If that's a bad idea, I feel like they would have said that more loudly.
(For instance - does it matter whether you've got more ACE2 if you're already infected and trying to keep the symptoms under control?)
EDIT: Thanks to 'FeteCommuniste in another comment for linking this Twitter thread https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1238946937916682241 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/12389469379166822... which points out that this is an un-peer-reviewed hypothesis.
- dharma1 7y agoit's worth watching this lecture from last week to understand the role of ACE2 in SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 - very informative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAW6VBWTiAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAW6VBWTiAA
- sdenton4 7y agoThese sorts of things are exactly the reason to try to slow the spread down. Ibuprofen /might/ be a bad idea. We currently have the time to notice that, and hopefully find out whether it's true by looking at hundreds of cases instead of tens of thousands.
- AstralStorm 7y agoGenerally taking Ibuprofen chronically might be a bad idea. We don't know how chronic the chronic is through. So to stay on the safe side, use as little as needed to control bigger fever and pain. This unlike antibiotics (not for viral infections) where you are supposed to take exactly the recommended amount for recommended time, preventing resistance.