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Europe is a chaotic mess. Germany is preventing exports of urgently needed masks and other medical supplies to Switzerland and Austria, Austria announced that n

Europe is a chaotic mess. Germany is preventing exports of urgently needed masks and other medical supplies to Switzerland and Austria, Austria announced that no curfews were coming yesterday and today Tirol is under curfew and harsh curfew-like restrictions will be in place from Monday in all of Austria. I'm not really sure what the strategy is, the WHO recommendations after their China mission have been known for 3 weeks and there is no recommended middle ground.

grey-area 7y ago
Not sure I agree with your assessment. Germany is doing pretty well at just 9 deaths on 4.5k cases. The WHO is not the only or the best source of recommendations, nor is this over in China. I'd be very surprised if they don't see another outbreak there now that this is a pandemic it will spread to Africa for example, which has a huge no of Chinese working there who will bring it back.
- yulaow 7y ago
  Germany is also not reporting deaths from coronavirus if the patients had also other pre-existing conditions just to keep the number artificially low.
  - martinpw 7y ago
    Do you have a reference for that?
  - svara 7y ago
    That's false, all recorded deaths do far were reported to have preexisting conditions.
- pasabagi 7y ago
  I'm not sure german successses are anything to do with action on the part of the government. I've been consistently surprised by the abrupt reversals in policy - with border controls or school closures going from 'out of the question' to 'tomorrow' with very little time elapsed. I think much of Europe is a little bit like this. Germany will probably be relatively well off because German culture is fairly anti-social, Germans are typically very healthy, and the healthcare system is somewhat robust. However, I haven't seen any sign whatsoever of a consistent or coherent response to the coronavirus. I expect whatever response eventually percolates out will be fairly rational, since german civil servants are well-paid and competent, but so far, it's been all over the place.
  - ficklepickle 7y ago
    Antisocial: Unwilling or unable to associate in a normal or friendly way with other people. That has not been my experience. How could the culture of an entire country be antisocial? A nation of hostile hermits?

grey-area 7y ago

Not sure I agree with your assessment. Germany is doing pretty well at just 9 deaths on 4.5k cases. The WHO is not the only or the best source of recommendations, nor is this over in China. I'd be very surprised if they don't see another outbreak there now that this is a pandemic it will spread to Africa for example, which has a huge no of Chinese working there who will bring it back.

yulaow 7y ago
Germany is also not reporting deaths from coronavirus if the patients had also other pre-existing conditions just to keep the number artificially low.
- martinpw 7y ago
  Do you have a reference for that?
- svara 7y ago
  That's false, all recorded deaths do far were reported to have preexisting conditions.
pasabagi 7y ago
I'm not sure german successses are anything to do with action on the part of the government. I've been consistently surprised by the abrupt reversals in policy - with border controls or school closures going from 'out of the question' to 'tomorrow' with very little time elapsed. I think much of Europe is a little bit like this. Germany will probably be relatively well off because German culture is fairly anti-social, Germans are typically very healthy, and the healthcare system is somewhat robust. However, I haven't seen any sign whatsoever of a consistent or coherent response to the coronavirus. I expect whatever response eventually percolates out will be fairly rational, since german civil servants are well-paid and competent, but so far, it's been all over the place.
- ficklepickle 7y ago
  Antisocial: Unwilling or unable to associate in a normal or friendly way with other people. That has not been my experience. How could the culture of an entire country be antisocial? A nation of hostile hermits?