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Mail 5 looks almost exactly like Sparrow: http://sparrowmailapp.com/ http://sparrowmailapp.com/ Although, if Mail 5 is inspired by Mail on the iPad, it's proba

by jarin 16y ago

Mail 5 looks almost exactly like Sparrow: http://sparrowmailapp.com/ http://sparrowmailapp.com/ Although, if Mail 5 is inspired by Mail on the iPad, it's probably more fair to say that Sparrow looks almost exactly like Mail on the iPad. Also, is that right that the developer preview is being distributed via the Mac App Store? How does that work? I will say though, I'm looking forward to impressing potential clients with some fancy swiping at the coffee shop :)

Sidnicious 16y ago
I think more like MobileMe mail/iPad mail: http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/#mail-5 http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/#mail-5
flyosity 16y ago
Actually, Sparrow looks exactly like Tweetie. Their UI is basically a clone of Loren's but with email messages showing instead of tweets.
charlesju 16y ago
The power of sparrow isn't the UI, it's the deep integration with gmail. More specifically, the labels are the killer feature.
- Tyrannosaurs 16y ago
  For me it's the completeness of the integration - labels, starring, spam. There's not much you can do it the web client you can't do in Sparrow.
  - narkee 16y ago
    Then why not just use the web client? It has 100% integration.
    - kes 16y ago
      Also, being a native app (Cocoa app) integrates it with OS X, which is really useful.
      - jarin 16y ago
        Growl is nice, but in fairness Gmail supports a Growl-like notifier now if you're using Google Chrome.
        CrazedGeek 16y ago
        Chrome's notification boxes have three major complaints from me: A. They don't automatically close. (I think you can change this for each web app individually, but I would like a browser-wise setting). This wouldn't be a big issue, if not for... B. The close button is freaking tiny. I can dismiss Growl notifications by clicking anywhere on them, which is much nicer on a laptop than trying to move to a small button. C. The notifcation windows resemble what Apple calls panels. [1] The problem is, "Panels float above other windows and provide tools or controls that users can work with while documents are open." [2] The user isn't meant to be closing panels often, which is why the title bar can be small. Chrome's notifications feel out of place in that regard. 1. http://maxcdn.googletutor.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/gmail-desktop-notification-1.png http://maxcdn.googletutor.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/... 2. http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/XHIGWindows.html http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserEx...
        bokchoi 16y ago
        > A. They don't automatically close. That's strange. They automatically close for me and I didn't change any settings anywhere. I would be nice if they were just Growl notifications however.
    - jarin 16y ago
      Sparrow is faster, doesn't take up the same memory that a tab does, and it's faster to find the icon in your Dock than dig through 40 tabs, plus it's nice to be able to quickly switch between Gmail/Google Apps accounts.
  - micampe 16y ago
    Is the conversation view fixed in the final release or do they still have the stupid thread view without my sent messages every other client but Gmail has?
    - tesseract 16y ago
      Sparrow threads include sent messages (which I'm pretty sure has been the case since at least the most recent beta).
- atourgates 16y ago
  Yep. I've been trying to replace mail.app with sparrow for the past 2 weeks. Sparrow's ui is mostly fine - but a bit frustrating at times. I find occasionally I miss new messages - something that never happened in mail.app. But, it really does combine the best of both worlds between Gmail and a desktop app.
joebananas 16y ago
Except that it doesn't seem to be a straight copy of a touchscreen UI shoehorned into a mouse and keyboard UI like Sparrow is.
mishmash 16y ago
> Also, is that right that the developer preview is being distributed via the Mac App Store? How does that work? You get a "redeem" code from developer.apple.com that you enter into the MAS like you would an iTunes gift card, and Lion starts downloading.

by jarin 16y ago

Sidnicious 16y ago

I think more like MobileMe mail/iPad mail: http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/#mail-5 http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/#mail-5

flyosity 16y ago

Actually, Sparrow looks exactly like Tweetie. Their UI is basically a clone of Loren's but with email messages showing instead of tweets.

charlesju 16y ago

The power of sparrow isn't the UI, it's the deep integration with gmail. More specifically, the labels are the killer feature.

Tyrannosaurs 16y ago
For me it's the completeness of the integration - labels, starring, spam. There's not much you can do it the web client you can't do in Sparrow.
- narkee 16y ago
  Then why not just use the web client? It has 100% integration.
  - kes 16y ago
    Also, being a native app (Cocoa app) integrates it with OS X, which is really useful.
    - jarin 16y ago
      Growl is nice, but in fairness Gmail supports a Growl-like notifier now if you're using Google Chrome.
      - CrazedGeek 16y ago
        Chrome's notification boxes have three major complaints from me: A. They don't automatically close. (I think you can change this for each web app individually, but I would like a browser-wise setting). This wouldn't be a big issue, if not for... B. The close button is freaking tiny. I can dismiss Growl notifications by clicking anywhere on them, which is much nicer on a laptop than trying to move to a small button. C. The notifcation windows resemble what Apple calls panels. [1] The problem is, "Panels float above other windows and provide tools or controls that users can work with while documents are open." [2] The user isn't meant to be closing panels often, which is why the title bar can be small. Chrome's notifications feel out of place in that regard. 1. http://maxcdn.googletutor.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/gmail-desktop-notification-1.png http://maxcdn.googletutor.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/... 2. http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/XHIGWindows.html http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserEx...
        bokchoi 16y ago
        > A. They don't automatically close. That's strange. They automatically close for me and I didn't change any settings anywhere. I would be nice if they were just Growl notifications however.
  - jarin 16y ago
    Sparrow is faster, doesn't take up the same memory that a tab does, and it's faster to find the icon in your Dock than dig through 40 tabs, plus it's nice to be able to quickly switch between Gmail/Google Apps accounts.
- micampe 16y ago
  Is the conversation view fixed in the final release or do they still have the stupid thread view without my sent messages every other client but Gmail has?
  - tesseract 16y ago
    Sparrow threads include sent messages (which I'm pretty sure has been the case since at least the most recent beta).
atourgates 16y ago
Yep. I've been trying to replace mail.app with sparrow for the past 2 weeks. Sparrow's ui is mostly fine - but a bit frustrating at times. I find occasionally I miss new messages - something that never happened in mail.app. But, it really does combine the best of both worlds between Gmail and a desktop app.

joebananas 16y ago

Except that it doesn't seem to be a straight copy of a touchscreen UI shoehorned into a mouse and keyboard UI like Sparrow is.

mishmash 16y ago

> Also, is that right that the developer preview is being distributed via the Mac App Store? How does that work? You get a "redeem" code from developer.apple.com that you enter into the MAS like you would an iTunes gift card, and Lion starts downloading.