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I use a stateless password manager with over 110 passwords. What I do is keep an Google Sheets document with the site, how it was generated (i.e. weird password

by slaymaker1907 7y ago

I use a stateless password manager with over 110 passwords. What I do is keep an Google Sheets document with the site, how it was generated (i.e. weird password rules), and a password version in case I ever need to change my master password. It has worked pretty well for me so far even when I have had to update passwords due to sites being comppromised/password update policies. Changing master password is a pain in the ass which I did once since my original master wasn’t very strong but is doable. Plus, a master password should really be changed rarely IMO.

igammarays 7y ago
May I ask why? If you have to maintain state with a Google Sheet, syncing is necessary. What benefit is there to this approach?
- slaymaker1907 7y ago
  The benefit is that most of the time I don’t need to the Google Sheet since I can usually remember the key and it is more for passwords with weird rules or ones I don’t use often. As for why stateless, it is much less work to get a new machine up and running. Plus, it is much friendlier at my current job since I can’t even send a word doc out to my personal email much less syncing a password vault. Much easier to have one stateless manager and separate spreadsheets for storing metadata.
  - eptcyka 7y ago
    It's not stateless though - it's a (hopefully) eventually consistent heterogeneous distributed database.
    - thinkloop 7y ago
      It's probably 90% stateless, with username being email and version being 1, plus probably remembering the exceptions to sites you use often.
  - mackrevinack 7y ago
    well keepassxc has a portable version on Windows (and a similar appimage on linux) so if you can run it from a USB in your place of work then you wouldn't need to set anything up each time you use a new comptuer. you could also download your keepass file from something like dropbox either, but that would be a bit more effort if you were creating new passwords in work since you would have to upload it again after
_jal 7y ago
So you keep your stateless password manager state in a spreadsheet?
durpkingOP 7y ago
you should just store all 110 passwords in your google sheet while you are at it
- slaymaker1907 7y ago
  The point is that the master password is not stored on this sheet.

igammarays 7y ago

May I ask why? If you have to maintain state with a Google Sheet, syncing is necessary. What benefit is there to this approach?

slaymaker1907 7y ago
The benefit is that most of the time I don’t need to the Google Sheet since I can usually remember the key and it is more for passwords with weird rules or ones I don’t use often. As for why stateless, it is much less work to get a new machine up and running. Plus, it is much friendlier at my current job since I can’t even send a word doc out to my personal email much less syncing a password vault. Much easier to have one stateless manager and separate spreadsheets for storing metadata.
- eptcyka 7y ago
  It's not stateless though - it's a (hopefully) eventually consistent heterogeneous distributed database.
  - thinkloop 7y ago
    It's probably 90% stateless, with username being email and version being 1, plus probably remembering the exceptions to sites you use often.
- mackrevinack 7y ago
  well keepassxc has a portable version on Windows (and a similar appimage on linux) so if you can run it from a USB in your place of work then you wouldn't need to set anything up each time you use a new comptuer. you could also download your keepass file from something like dropbox either, but that would be a bit more effort if you were creating new passwords in work since you would have to upload it again after

_jal 7y ago

So you keep your stateless password manager state in a spreadsheet?

durpkingOP 7y ago

you should just store all 110 passwords in your google sheet while you are at it

slaymaker1907 7y ago
The point is that the master password is not stored on this sheet.