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The first case only just made its way to our city a couple of days ago. We have been rather distracted of course by getting signatures and cheques. For context

The first case only just made its way to our city a couple of days ago. We have been rather distracted of course by getting signatures and cheques. For context, our schools and daycares are still open, as are city rec centers, gyms, and public transit. Only yesterday did the province recommend no gatherings over 250 people. Perhaps we should have been quicker, but here we are.

VectorLock 7y ago
That doesn't bode well that you're so focused on getting checks that you've completely failed to observe the world around you.
- cknoxrun 7y ago
  I don't feel that snipe was necessary. I've expressed myself honestly, and no one acts perfectly in situations like this.
  - VectorLock 7y ago
    I appreciate you owning up to your myopic short comings and hopefully you'll correct that course before those that have hitched their carts to your wagon feel the ramifications.
    - tom_ 7y ago
      Perhaps you should ask those people how they feel too! Still, if there's a problem, perhaps they can get a ride on your high horse?
      - VectorLock 7y ago
        I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this company if we ever cross paths, from my high horse.
  - sk5t 7y ago
    I'm not sure it was a snipe, because there's so often an emergency of some sort or other, causing us to lose focus on the big picture. The "one more thing" to do that will make everything all right.
kyawzazaw 7y ago
I am just super curious. Do your startup employees need physical infrastructure or deal with super confidential data that require them to be on site? Do you not trust them the employees to work their part on their own?
- cknoxrun 7y ago
  They can work from home. But I'm learning from this thread, that being in a rather northern location where no one in the entire city has started working from home is not the norm. Again, it was only yesterday that the government gave any official guidance on travel or gatherings of people.
  - mft_ 7y ago
    For so many reasons, selfish and not, you should target being ‘ahead of the curve’. Your government is not the oracle here. Later, you’ll be happy you acted earlier than others. Move your employees to WFH now. Ensure you all have the infrastructure at home to support being as effective as possible.
    - cknoxrun 7y ago
      We have let everyone know they must start working from home, and we are purchasing proper audio equipment for our employees. This thread acted as a wake-up call. I fully admit we have had our head down. I have been dismissive in the middle of raising a seed round while running a company of 20 employees, with two very active boys at home. I have had no time to stay up to date on the world, and the general lack of action around me made me feel that it was something we had time to get to later. That is no excuse, only an explanation. I do sincerely hope that nothing negative comes out of our actions.
  - jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
    If your government gave no official guidance at all, then you would do nothing. If other companies did nothing, then you would do nothing. Interesting. Entrepreneurs are usually way more forward thinking.
TeMPOraL 7y ago
> The first case only just made its way to our city a couple of days ago. The first tested case. Given the delay between onset and diagnosis, + amounts of tests being actually done, + the couple days you mention, you may as well have over a thousand infected people in your city now, and you won't know until a) more tests start being made, or b) some of these people will start getting hospitalized in the next couple of days.
furyofantares 7y ago
Only 150 cases in AU at the time Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson got it. Only a thousand in the US when two NBA players got it. Only 150 in Canada when the Prime Minister's wife got it. Only 150 cases in Brazil when the press secretary got it. These people certainly have more exposure to other humans than most people do. But not so much that they should be making up whole percentages of the infected population. I believe they are just well connected and wealthy and it's easier for them to get tested. You can't have confirmed cases without testing. I've come to believe these confirmed case numbers may be having a negative effect on our understanding of the situation.
- nostromo 7y ago
  There are two sides of that coin. One side: it's much more widespread than we realize. Other side: it's much more mild and less fatal than we first thought.
  - goatlover 7y ago
    A third side is a majority of the infections are still early stage, as was the case in Italy a couple weeks ago.
  - zapita 7y ago
    You’re assuming all deaths caused by Coronavirus are correctly identified as such. Sadly that’s almost guaranteed to not be the case.
    - deleted 7y ago
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  - tunesmith 7y ago
    At the Friday press conference, they said that the LabCorp / LabQuest tests were testing about 2% positive. I don't have much of an insight to this, but isn't that weirdly low if it's truly everywhere? Especially if you factor in the limited testing and that testing will only be given to the more urgent high risk cases. 98% are just something else like the cold or the flu, or a false negative.

VectorLock 7y ago

That doesn't bode well that you're so focused on getting checks that you've completely failed to observe the world around you.

cknoxrun 7y ago
I don't feel that snipe was necessary. I've expressed myself honestly, and no one acts perfectly in situations like this.
- VectorLock 7y ago
  I appreciate you owning up to your myopic short comings and hopefully you'll correct that course before those that have hitched their carts to your wagon feel the ramifications.
  - tom_ 7y ago
    Perhaps you should ask those people how they feel too! Still, if there's a problem, perhaps they can get a ride on your high horse?
    - VectorLock 7y ago
      I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this company if we ever cross paths, from my high horse.
- sk5t 7y ago
  I'm not sure it was a snipe, because there's so often an emergency of some sort or other, causing us to lose focus on the big picture. The "one more thing" to do that will make everything all right.

kyawzazaw 7y ago

I am just super curious. Do your startup employees need physical infrastructure or deal with super confidential data that require them to be on site? Do you not trust them the employees to work their part on their own?

cknoxrun 7y ago
They can work from home. But I'm learning from this thread, that being in a rather northern location where no one in the entire city has started working from home is not the norm. Again, it was only yesterday that the government gave any official guidance on travel or gatherings of people.
- mft_ 7y ago
  For so many reasons, selfish and not, you should target being ‘ahead of the curve’. Your government is not the oracle here. Later, you’ll be happy you acted earlier than others. Move your employees to WFH now. Ensure you all have the infrastructure at home to support being as effective as possible.
  - cknoxrun 7y ago
    We have let everyone know they must start working from home, and we are purchasing proper audio equipment for our employees. This thread acted as a wake-up call. I fully admit we have had our head down. I have been dismissive in the middle of raising a seed round while running a company of 20 employees, with two very active boys at home. I have had no time to stay up to date on the world, and the general lack of action around me made me feel that it was something we had time to get to later. That is no excuse, only an explanation. I do sincerely hope that nothing negative comes out of our actions.
- jfkebwjsbx 7y ago
  If your government gave no official guidance at all, then you would do nothing. If other companies did nothing, then you would do nothing. Interesting. Entrepreneurs are usually way more forward thinking.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

> The first case only just made its way to our city a couple of days ago. The first tested case. Given the delay between onset and diagnosis, + amounts of tests being actually done, + the couple days you mention, you may as well have over a thousand infected people in your city now, and you won't know until a) more tests start being made, or b) some of these people will start getting hospitalized in the next couple of days.

furyofantares 7y ago

Only 150 cases in AU at the time Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson got it. Only a thousand in the US when two NBA players got it. Only 150 in Canada when the Prime Minister's wife got it. Only 150 cases in Brazil when the press secretary got it. These people certainly have more exposure to other humans than most people do. But not so much that they should be making up whole percentages of the infected population. I believe they are just well connected and wealthy and it's easier for them to get tested. You can't have confirmed cases without testing. I've come to believe these confirmed case numbers may be having a negative effect on our understanding of the situation.

nostromo 7y ago
There are two sides of that coin. One side: it's much more widespread than we realize. Other side: it's much more mild and less fatal than we first thought.
- goatlover 7y ago
  A third side is a majority of the infections are still early stage, as was the case in Italy a couple weeks ago.
- zapita 7y ago
  You’re assuming all deaths caused by Coronavirus are correctly identified as such. Sadly that’s almost guaranteed to not be the case.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- tunesmith 7y ago
  At the Friday press conference, they said that the LabCorp / LabQuest tests were testing about 2% positive. I don't have much of an insight to this, but isn't that weirdly low if it's truly everywhere? Especially if you factor in the limited testing and that testing will only be given to the more urgent high risk cases. 98% are just something else like the cold or the flu, or a false negative.