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Well, they are both in agreement that we need to reach herd immunity at minimal cost. They also agree to keep the rate of new infections below NHS's capacity to
by cynusx 7y ago
Well, they are both in agreement that we need to reach herd immunity at minimal cost. They also agree to keep the rate of new infections below NHS's capacity to handle.
They disagree on:
- adherence to lockdown measures over a longer time
- actual rate of spreading the disease
I agree with John Edmunds on these two points, however I am frankly disappointed a third approach is absent from the debate which is to lockdown aggressively now and deliberately infect healthy-age adults to achieve herd-immunity in the healthiest (most active) population.
These types of organized "corona parties" if you will could be medically supervised and coordinated with the NHS's ability. In that case you have controlled (accelerated) spread with 0 viral coefficient and uncontrolled general population spread with a viral coefficient.
That said, it would only be ethical if the government believes it could manage the capacity of the NHS. I think more realistically it's a foregone conclusion that the country health systems will be overrun and that drastic lockdown measures only make sense for a few weeks to make sure herd immunity comes at effectively half the cost in human lives.
If they don't believe they can manage the NHS capacity then the UK governments' policy is by all means the most human and economically effective way to manage it
- dash2 7y ago> These types of organized "corona parties" What if we gave a corona party and nobody came? Seriously, I don't think forcing people to be infected is ethical in any way whatsoever, unless you are a truly brutal trolley-pushing utilitarian, and very confident that your strategy will work....
- aidos 7y agoYour parent wasn’t advocating for forced infection. It’s my understanding that pox parties were a fairly common way to manage the spread of chicken pox. If you take some extreme assumptions; everyone will catch this, and you can infect in a totally controlled way where only the ones you wanted to infect were infected, you could definitely argue that controlled infection was the best course of action.
- dempseye 7y agoPox parties are forced infection. Children do not choose to go or understand what is being done to them. Their parents exert power over them to make it happen. You can argue about the morality of it, but the analogy with adults voluntarily getting infected is false.