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There is no proof immunity will happen, the UK Gov is thinking in economic terms and worried about GDP. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/13/coron

• amiga_500 7y ago
  Exactly. We have huge debts and our "economy" runs on the assumption that, if very little goes wrong, we might be able to stay afloat. The time for creating choice on the cornonavirus response was during the last 20 years. They chose rampant financialisation, leveraging future income. The UK has no energy security. No food security. I feel the corner we have painted ourselves into makes a prolonged shutdown far, far harder.
  • Gormisdomai 7y ago
    Genuinely curious about where you read that the UK has no energy security? It's not something I've read about before, but is something I'm pretty invested in as a UK citizen. The one source I could find was https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/energy-security-risk-index https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/energy-security-risk-i... which placed the UK in the top 3 countries for energy security (many years running). Do let me know if you have some data that would change my mind! (and ditto for food security)
    • amiga_500 7y ago
      I mean to say we are a net importer of energy https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/sep/01/uk-energy-price-fears-as-electricity-imports-climb-to-record-high https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/sep/01/uk-energy-pric... And food https://www.businessinsider.com/no-deal-brexit-percentage-british-food-imported-shortages-2019-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/no-deal-brexit-percentage-br...
• akerro 7y ago
  Killing older population will provide £350M/weekly for the NHS and decrease financial gap between generations.
  • soVeryTired 7y ago
    Stop it. This is bigger than Brexit.
    • NullPrefix 7y ago
      Stop it because it is incorrect or stop it because it is insensitive?
      • arcticbull 7y ago
        "Stop it because it's unimaginable that the UK government is intentionally trying to kill off it's old folks no matter how much money that may save the NHS, in no small part because that would be akin to a genocide for profit"
        • ta999999171 7y ago
          You don't study governments much, huh
          • arcticbull 7y ago
            I uh, ... what
        • netsharc 7y ago
          Have you heard about the Windrush scandal? It's (probably) not about the NHS but more about "we kicked out so many illegal immigrants last year, aren't we great?" (not that these people are illegal immigrants, but hey, let's make burden of proof tests that are hard for them to pass), but, incredible how seemingly easy it is for the Home Office to be heartless to the point of killing people via red tape.
• gpderetta 7y ago
  I fear that when the PM said that his decisions are driven by science, he means economists, not virologists.
• Engineering-MD 7y ago
  If immunity doesn’t occur, then a vaccine is also useless.
  • leemailll 7y ago
    It's two different things
    • thu2111 7y ago
      No it isn't. Vaccines create immunity, that's the point. Also, what diseases that don't kill you also don't result in immunity? "There's no evidence of immunity" seems an absurd statement, we can literally see the antibodies people create in response to the infection. That seems like just looking for an excuse to attack the UK.
      • leemailll 7y ago
        do you ever heard of plague?
        • thu2111 7y ago
          What's plague got to do with it? Plague vaccines exist that give up to a year of immunity: https://contagions.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/generating-immunity-to-the-plague/ https://contagions.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/generating-immun...
      • tigershark 7y ago
        Flu vaccine has to be taken every year.
        • thu2111 7y ago
          That's because flu isn't a single disease, it's a category of diseases, like cancer. People do build immunity to specific flu variants.