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I think the statement is "most NYC commutes are longer than Amsterdam commutes, so chances are lower that each commute could be done by bicycle". My commute wo

by zck 7y ago

I think the statement is "most NYC commutes are longer than Amsterdam commutes, so chances are lower that each commute could be done by bicycle". My commute would be almost six miles by bicycle. I'm not especially looking to replace the subway with a bike trip.

danieldk 7y ago
My commute would be almost six miles by bicycle. I'm not especially looking to replace the subway with a bike trip. We cycled 8 miles to high school every day (so, 16 per day). Cycling 6 miles is not a lot, unless you have to stop every minute at a traffic light. Up till 1.5 year ago (when I wasn't working remotely), I cycled 7 miles to work every single day (also through rain and snow). For good measure, I'd take an extra hilly route the way back twice a week for some extra exercise.
- zck 7y ago
  > Cycling 6 miles is not a lot... If you say so. It is for me. It's not only a long distance (google maps says 35 minutes, which I suspect is an underestimate), but also would be significantly inconvenient -- do I shower at work, and when I get home? What if I want to go somewhere after work -- leave the bike and come back for it? I love the idea of biking, but I don't see it being useful for my commute.
  - thedance 7y ago
    Fundamentally there is no transportation solution to land use problems. If your destinations are inconveniently far apart, no bicycle, tram, bus, or train can fix that. The closest you can get to the convenience of a car without all the externalized social costs is an electric bicycle.
    - zck 7y ago
      I have an average commute, I'd say, for NYC. It's not like I'm some sort of supercommuter (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-surging-ranks-of-super-commuters/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-surging-ranks-of-super-comm...).
      - thedance 7y ago
        I don’t doubt it but statistically New York has a very high average commute time compared to other American cities.
  - watwut 7y ago
    > do I shower at work, and when I get home? Observation: those who bike fast and get sweaty or live far shower at work. It is typically quick shower. No idea what they do at home. Slow people who dont sweat dont shower at work.

by zck 7y ago

danieldk 7y ago

My commute would be almost six miles by bicycle. I'm not especially looking to replace the subway with a bike trip. We cycled 8 miles to high school every day (so, 16 per day). Cycling 6 miles is not a lot, unless you have to stop every minute at a traffic light. Up till 1.5 year ago (when I wasn't working remotely), I cycled 7 miles to work every single day (also through rain and snow). For good measure, I'd take an extra hilly route the way back twice a week for some extra exercise.

zck 7y ago
> Cycling 6 miles is not a lot... If you say so. It is for me. It's not only a long distance (google maps says 35 minutes, which I suspect is an underestimate), but also would be significantly inconvenient -- do I shower at work, and when I get home? What if I want to go somewhere after work -- leave the bike and come back for it? I love the idea of biking, but I don't see it being useful for my commute.
- thedance 7y ago
  Fundamentally there is no transportation solution to land use problems. If your destinations are inconveniently far apart, no bicycle, tram, bus, or train can fix that. The closest you can get to the convenience of a car without all the externalized social costs is an electric bicycle.
  - zck 7y ago
    I have an average commute, I'd say, for NYC. It's not like I'm some sort of supercommuter (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-surging-ranks-of-super-commuters/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-surging-ranks-of-super-comm...).
    - thedance 7y ago
      I don’t doubt it but statistically New York has a very high average commute time compared to other American cities.
- watwut 7y ago
  > do I shower at work, and when I get home? Observation: those who bike fast and get sweaty or live far shower at work. It is typically quick shower. No idea what they do at home. Slow people who dont sweat dont shower at work.