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I'd love to see a counter opinion about the elderly being cruel to the young by saddling them with debt, the climate crisis, social security, tax breaks for the

I'd love to see a counter opinion about the elderly being cruel to the young by saddling them with debt, the climate crisis, social security, tax breaks for the retired, etc. What's interesting is this article notes that these young people are "not caring" about a generation, but probably do care for individuals in the generation (e.g. their wlown grand parents). This somewhat amusingly reflects the case where individual grand parents are often very generous to particular youth, but not to the generation as a whole. People should absolutely be taking the outbreak seriously, and I agree these young people are downplaying the severity. I just feel this article sets the stage so perfectly for a counter.

leftyted 7y ago
The article provides an example of what you're asking for: > "To be perfectly honest, and this is awful, but to the young, watching as the elderly over and over and over choose their own interests ahead of Climate policy kind of feels like they’re wishing us to a death they won’t have to experience. It’s a sad bit of fair play." I find the whole generational conflict bewildering. To me, blaming "the elderly" for "the climate crisis" and "saddling us with debt" seems stupid beyond words.
- pasabagi 7y ago
  They do tend to vote for tire-burning candidates, on the whole. I personally feel there's a sort of vicious circle going on between the social isolation of the elderly, the elderly consequently watching too much TV, then (on the whole) developing rather unfortunate political views.
- notduncansmith 7y ago
  > To me, blaming "the elderly" for "the climate crisis" and "saddling us with debt" seems stupid beyond words. Many in that generation selfishly liquidate humanity’s collective equity in the form of Earth’s natural resources and human health that could have grown and generated interest for generations. From a financial perspective they’ve royally fucked up their stewardship of this account. It’s not a good idea to act like every old person is part of the problem, but we have to remember that death is an important part of evolution, and just aim to be less of a collective disappointment to our own successors.
0x8BADF00D 7y ago
It’s not a particularly new nor surprising narrative. It is said that the elderly are typically ignored and abused in the West, especially in the US. Contrast that to how the elderly are treated in the Orient. It depends on your definition of cruelty. Maybe to some, living with in-laws that despise you and leech off of you might be cruel. It’s all a matter of perspective.
foogazi 7y ago
You are just doing the same thing The “elderly” and the “young” are not faceless masses but people with their own interests There are more young voters than elderly voters and yet here we are still blaming previous generations There are more female voters than male and yet not a single woman has been president
- DubiousPusher 7y ago
  > There are more young voters than elderly voters By most measures used by political scientists, that isn't really true. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/03/millennials-approach-baby-boomers-as-largest-generation-in-u-s-electorate/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/03/millennials...

leftyted 7y ago

The article provides an example of what you're asking for: > "To be perfectly honest, and this is awful, but to the young, watching as the elderly over and over and over choose their own interests ahead of Climate policy kind of feels like they’re wishing us to a death they won’t have to experience. It’s a sad bit of fair play." I find the whole generational conflict bewildering. To me, blaming "the elderly" for "the climate crisis" and "saddling us with debt" seems stupid beyond words.

pasabagi 7y ago
They do tend to vote for tire-burning candidates, on the whole. I personally feel there's a sort of vicious circle going on between the social isolation of the elderly, the elderly consequently watching too much TV, then (on the whole) developing rather unfortunate political views.
notduncansmith 7y ago
> To me, blaming "the elderly" for "the climate crisis" and "saddling us with debt" seems stupid beyond words. Many in that generation selfishly liquidate humanity’s collective equity in the form of Earth’s natural resources and human health that could have grown and generated interest for generations. From a financial perspective they’ve royally fucked up their stewardship of this account. It’s not a good idea to act like every old person is part of the problem, but we have to remember that death is an important part of evolution, and just aim to be less of a collective disappointment to our own successors.

0x8BADF00D 7y ago

It’s not a particularly new nor surprising narrative. It is said that the elderly are typically ignored and abused in the West, especially in the US. Contrast that to how the elderly are treated in the Orient. It depends on your definition of cruelty. Maybe to some, living with in-laws that despise you and leech off of you might be cruel. It’s all a matter of perspective.

foogazi 7y ago

You are just doing the same thing The “elderly” and the “young” are not faceless masses but people with their own interests There are more young voters than elderly voters and yet here we are still blaming previous generations There are more female voters than male and yet not a single woman has been president

DubiousPusher 7y ago
> There are more young voters than elderly voters By most measures used by political scientists, that isn't really true. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/03/millennials-approach-baby-boomers-as-largest-generation-in-u-s-electorate/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/03/millennials...