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Motorcycles are dangerously loud (to the point of causing hearing damage). They amplify traffic woes when they weave in and out of crowded lanes. Oh and there’s

Motorcycles are dangerously loud (to the point of causing hearing damage). They amplify traffic woes when they weave in and out of crowded lanes. Oh and there’s a reason the “biker dude” stereotype exists. If generating incessant noise is your only way of staying safe on the road, maybe consider getting something not as risky. Drive a car or take the bus. It works for the vast majority of people, maybe they’re on to something eh?

silverreads 7y ago
SUVs are probably the safest option. You get your nice isolation and you also get a nice crash cage! I wonder why it's so hard to prove to motorcyclists that this is the most efficient option!? ...Because they don't care about that crap. They are way ahead of your efficiency, often even ahead of the efficiency of a bus. A bike can get 70mpg without very much trouble and some more than 100mpg, and they don't cause traffic congestion in the first place because they occupy little additional space beyond the rider. Gee, Maybe they're on to something, eh?
- throwythrower 7y ago
  This has to be some of the most flawed logic I’ve ever heard. Would that mean a pedestrian walking in the middle of the freeway wouldn’t cause congestion either? They take up even lesser room, eh mate? Electric anything (this includes most city buses and cars, and some newer motorcycles) has a way lower environmental impact than any IC motorcycles. But hey, you do you, and keep telling yourself you’re getting 100 mpg so you’re doing better than most people.
  - manigandham 7y ago
    Walking is more efficient than driving, it’s not viable beyond short distances. Most vehicles are not electric yet.
  - salty_biscuits 7y ago
    Honda super cub begs to differ. Only 90kg of materials and a fuel efficiency of 60 km/l plus...
  - kronin 7y ago
    Are we talking total environmental impact? Sourcing materials, manufacturing, shipping to point of sale, usage, maintenance and finally disposal? Edit: just did some research on electric vs. gas vehicles and their total environmental impact. Nothing specifically on motorcycles, but some of the data would apply. "Based on where EVs have been sold, driving the average EV produces global warming pollution equal to a gasoline vehicle that gets 88 miles per gallon (mpg) fuel economy." https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/are-electric-vehicles-really-better-for-the-climate-yes-heres-why https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/are-electric-vehicles... "In a 2015 study, the Union of Concerned Scientists found that gas-powered cars emitted almost double the emissions that contribute to global warming as electric vehicles, which can make up the difference from the manufacturing stage in six to 18 months of driving, depending on the size of the battery." https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-much-pollution-versus-gas-powered-vehicles-2019-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-m...
jascii 7y ago
Cars kill a lot more people then motorcycles, just not their owners.. From that perspective motorcycles are the safer option. No motorcycle causes hearing damage beyond the rider, and this is caused by wind noise not the engine. The "weaving in and out of crowded lanes" is easily solved: don't be a selfish prick, give them some room..

silverreads 7y ago

SUVs are probably the safest option. You get your nice isolation and you also get a nice crash cage! I wonder why it's so hard to prove to motorcyclists that this is the most efficient option!? ...Because they don't care about that crap. They are way ahead of your efficiency, often even ahead of the efficiency of a bus. A bike can get 70mpg without very much trouble and some more than 100mpg, and they don't cause traffic congestion in the first place because they occupy little additional space beyond the rider. Gee, Maybe they're on to something, eh?

throwythrower 7y ago
This has to be some of the most flawed logic I’ve ever heard. Would that mean a pedestrian walking in the middle of the freeway wouldn’t cause congestion either? They take up even lesser room, eh mate? Electric anything (this includes most city buses and cars, and some newer motorcycles) has a way lower environmental impact than any IC motorcycles. But hey, you do you, and keep telling yourself you’re getting 100 mpg so you’re doing better than most people.
- manigandham 7y ago
  Walking is more efficient than driving, it’s not viable beyond short distances. Most vehicles are not electric yet.
- salty_biscuits 7y ago
  Honda super cub begs to differ. Only 90kg of materials and a fuel efficiency of 60 km/l plus...
- kronin 7y ago
  Are we talking total environmental impact? Sourcing materials, manufacturing, shipping to point of sale, usage, maintenance and finally disposal? Edit: just did some research on electric vs. gas vehicles and their total environmental impact. Nothing specifically on motorcycles, but some of the data would apply. "Based on where EVs have been sold, driving the average EV produces global warming pollution equal to a gasoline vehicle that gets 88 miles per gallon (mpg) fuel economy." https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/are-electric-vehicles-really-better-for-the-climate-yes-heres-why https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/are-electric-vehicles... "In a 2015 study, the Union of Concerned Scientists found that gas-powered cars emitted almost double the emissions that contribute to global warming as electric vehicles, which can make up the difference from the manufacturing stage in six to 18 months of driving, depending on the size of the battery." https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-much-pollution-versus-gas-powered-vehicles-2019-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-m...

jascii 7y ago

Cars kill a lot more people then motorcycles, just not their owners.. From that perspective motorcycles are the safer option. No motorcycle causes hearing damage beyond the rider, and this is caused by wind noise not the engine. The "weaving in and out of crowded lanes" is easily solved: don't be a selfish prick, give them some room..