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I believe your comment is in good faith, but I also believe you are wrong. This approach sounds very similar to the UK approach, overseen by Whitty[0] and Vall

by sjcsjc 7y ago

I believe your comment is in good faith, but I also believe you are wrong. This approach sounds very similar to the UK approach, overseen by Whitty[0] and Vallance[1], and agreed with by Neal[2] and Ferguson[3] (and I assume more but I haven't looked very hard). I don't think all these guys are morons. Well, I hope they're not. [0] Chris Whitty, UK Chief Medical Officer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Whitty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Whitty [1] Patrick Vallance, UK Chief Science Officer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Vallance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Vallance [2] Keith Neal, Professor Emeritus - Epidemiology of Infectious Diseases, Univ of Nottingham https://uk.linkedin.com/in/keith-neal-1818b391 https://uk.linkedin.com/in/keith-neal-1818b391 https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/nottingham-experts-give-views-boris-3945730 https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/nottingh... (there was a better quote on the BBC but I can't find it now) [3] Neil Ferguson, https://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/neil.ferguson https://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/neil.ferguson Haven't got a link but I heard him speak on UK Radio 4's Today programme this morning.

Yetanfou 7y ago
In what sense would my comment not be in 'good faith'? The UK allowed the Cheltenham festival [1] to take place this last week as well, attracting 250.000 visitors. The mere fact that the UK arrived at the same conclusions as Sweden does not make those conclusions any more valid or wise. [1] https://cheltenhamfestivaluk.com/ https://cheltenhamfestivaluk.com/
- sjcsjc 7y ago
  Yeah, fair enough, my good faith line was a bit pointless. I was just trying to be nice before disagreeing with you. Ham-fisted of me. I was (quite vociferously) of your opinion till Boris Johnson's press conference on Thursday. I changed my mind during it listening to Whitty and Vallance explain their strategy. I now think it makes sense.
  - Yetanfou 7y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etlyvt9n_QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etlyvt9n_QE Dr. John Campbell goes into the contradiction between the approach used in e.g. Sweden and the UK vs. that advocated by the WHO. He is with the WHO on this point, as am I. In a few months time we'll know which approach worked best.
    - sjcsjc 7y ago
      Just seen this, which supports your point of view: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 Edit: Ah. The list of signatories is worth reviewing.

by sjcsjc 7y ago

Yetanfou 7y ago

In what sense would my comment not be in 'good faith'? The UK allowed the Cheltenham festival [1] to take place this last week as well, attracting 250.000 visitors. The mere fact that the UK arrived at the same conclusions as Sweden does not make those conclusions any more valid or wise. [1] https://cheltenhamfestivaluk.com/ https://cheltenhamfestivaluk.com/

sjcsjc 7y ago
Yeah, fair enough, my good faith line was a bit pointless. I was just trying to be nice before disagreeing with you. Ham-fisted of me. I was (quite vociferously) of your opinion till Boris Johnson's press conference on Thursday. I changed my mind during it listening to Whitty and Vallance explain their strategy. I now think it makes sense.
- Yetanfou 7y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etlyvt9n_QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etlyvt9n_QE Dr. John Campbell goes into the contradiction between the approach used in e.g. Sweden and the UK vs. that advocated by the WHO. He is with the WHO on this point, as am I. In a few months time we'll know which approach worked best.
  - sjcsjc 7y ago
    Just seen this, which supports your point of view: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 Edit: Ah. The list of signatories is worth reviewing.