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Appalling. That’s so funny. The morbidity rate is far less than 3%. Most people who get it probably don’t even realize they have it which makes the numbers look

Appalling. That’s so funny. The morbidity rate is far less than 3%. Most people who get it probably don’t even realize they have it which makes the numbers look worse than they are. Look I’m not saying nothing should be done. If nothing were done the. We might see something that vaguely resembles what you are describing. If people wouldn’t panic and if antibiotics were prescribed remotely and if people did a few basic things like wash their hands and stay at home if they have a preexisting medical condition, then basically nothing would happen. The only one we don’t have is a lack of panic. People are trying to see their doctors and get tests while they have no symptoms. I’m sorry man but you’re wrong this time.

jariel 7y ago
>>> "We might see something that vaguely resembles what you are describing." No, there's a 100% chance we will see it if we don't take measures. Watch the news from Wuhan, Italy - it's apoplectic. It's really bad, and if they didn't shut everything down, it would be a zombie movie. We know that 'shutting things down' works because in China, the virus is contained, at least for now and medical facilities are starting to be able to cope. >>> "The morbidity rate is far less than 3%" Source? Because every credible source and the data coming out of various countries puts the rate at somewhere near 3%, not 'far less than' 3%. Some facts [1] Even a 1.5% death rate is existentially problematic, we're still talking millions of people dead. Moreover, if you bother to look at the data, you'll see that morbidity rates are a function of access to care, meaning that when Hospitals are 'overwhelmed' - people die at much greater rates. In Italy, it's 5%. But there's a bigger issue: 20% of people who get it requires specific medical intervention, and at least 5% of them 'intensive care'. COVID is totally overwhelming medical the medical system in 100% of the areas wherein the contagion has let loose; people getting zero treatment, medical staff getting infected, people dying in the hallways, in their homes. FYI 20% of 330M Americans is 66M people, only a fraction of whom need to be infected for 'zombie apocalypse' in the Hospitals, again: see Italy, Wuhan for what will happen. >>> Antibiotics?? Antibiotics are not part of this equation. >>> "and if people did a few basic things like wash their hands and stay at home if they have a preexisting medical condition, then basically nothing would happen. " No - absolutely not. Having a few people 'wash their hands' and having the elderly 'stay home' will do very little to quash the pandemic. The evidence from other countries is writ large, the variables are established: extensive testing, restricted travel, social distancing, isolation for any sick person, aggressive operational preparation by medical staff, keeping social order, restriction on large scale events etc. etc.. This is the 'new normal' for at least a few months. [1] https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop...
- ggffryuuj 7y ago
  It’s going to be basically totally over in a few months, maybe more. So you have tipped your hand a bit because you are confused that I would talk about antibiotics. That comment alone has revealed to me that you have no idea what you’re talking about and are probably 14 years old. The way that covid appears to kill most people is by upsetting gas transfer in the lungs and secondary bacterial infections, pneumonia. The treatment for which is antibiotics and an oxygen line. Both of which are plentiful, do not require special skill to acquire or administer. Im not even going to talk about testing because your head might explode. Washing hands and staying at home, which you contradict yourself by refuting and then recommending under different names, will blunt the impact on hospitals. But it’s important to remember that worst case scenario, we are still here as a country and as a race. That is a luxury compared to how it could be next time. I will give it to you alarmists that we were not prepared at all and we should have been. We were very lucky this time. Now school is cancelled for you so go play counter strike. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896841120300469?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089684112...
  - dang 7y ago
    You've made some reasonable points in places but you've also broken the site guidelines egregiously. The latter is more significant, so we've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ggffryuuj 7y ago
      If people slight me then I should be able to slight them back...
      - dang 7y ago
        Not here. At scale, that would guarantee the destruction of the forum.
feistypharit 7y ago
Antibiotics don't work for viruses!

jariel 7y ago

>>> "We might see something that vaguely resembles what you are describing." No, there's a 100% chance we will see it if we don't take measures. Watch the news from Wuhan, Italy - it's apoplectic. It's really bad, and if they didn't shut everything down, it would be a zombie movie. We know that 'shutting things down' works because in China, the virus is contained, at least for now and medical facilities are starting to be able to cope. >>> "The morbidity rate is far less than 3%" Source? Because every credible source and the data coming out of various countries puts the rate at somewhere near 3%, not 'far less than' 3%. Some facts [1] Even a 1.5% death rate is existentially problematic, we're still talking millions of people dead. Moreover, if you bother to look at the data, you'll see that morbidity rates are a function of access to care, meaning that when Hospitals are 'overwhelmed' - people die at much greater rates. In Italy, it's 5%. But there's a bigger issue: 20% of people who get it requires specific medical intervention, and at least 5% of them 'intensive care'. COVID is totally overwhelming medical the medical system in 100% of the areas wherein the contagion has let loose; people getting zero treatment, medical staff getting infected, people dying in the hallways, in their homes. FYI 20% of 330M Americans is 66M people, only a fraction of whom need to be infected for 'zombie apocalypse' in the Hospitals, again: see Italy, Wuhan for what will happen. >>> Antibiotics?? Antibiotics are not part of this equation. >>> "and if people did a few basic things like wash their hands and stay at home if they have a preexisting medical condition, then basically nothing would happen. " No - absolutely not. Having a few people 'wash their hands' and having the elderly 'stay home' will do very little to quash the pandemic. The evidence from other countries is writ large, the variables are established: extensive testing, restricted travel, social distancing, isolation for any sick person, aggressive operational preparation by medical staff, keeping social order, restriction on large scale events etc. etc.. This is the 'new normal' for at least a few months. [1] https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop...

ggffryuuj 7y ago
It’s going to be basically totally over in a few months, maybe more. So you have tipped your hand a bit because you are confused that I would talk about antibiotics. That comment alone has revealed to me that you have no idea what you’re talking about and are probably 14 years old. The way that covid appears to kill most people is by upsetting gas transfer in the lungs and secondary bacterial infections, pneumonia. The treatment for which is antibiotics and an oxygen line. Both of which are plentiful, do not require special skill to acquire or administer. Im not even going to talk about testing because your head might explode. Washing hands and staying at home, which you contradict yourself by refuting and then recommending under different names, will blunt the impact on hospitals. But it’s important to remember that worst case scenario, we are still here as a country and as a race. That is a luxury compared to how it could be next time. I will give it to you alarmists that we were not prepared at all and we should have been. We were very lucky this time. Now school is cancelled for you so go play counter strike. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896841120300469?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089684112...
- dang 7y ago
  You've made some reasonable points in places but you've also broken the site guidelines egregiously. The latter is more significant, so we've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ggffryuuj 7y ago
    If people slight me then I should be able to slight them back...
    - dang 7y ago
      Not here. At scale, that would guarantee the destruction of the forum.

feistypharit 7y ago

Antibiotics don't work for viruses!