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And what if the mask itself is already tainted with the virus? Wouldn't you want to verify that it's actually free of the virus in the first place? It is coming

And what if the mask itself is already tainted with the virus? Wouldn't you want to verify that it's actually free of the virus in the first place? It is coming from China.

mythrwy 7y ago
Mask tainted with virus? Cmmon man, that is a tremendous stretch of likelihood. And would lead to action. Original poster was talking about masks not meeting some specification. And I'm pretty sure most of your stuff has been coming from China for a long time. I really am mindblown by both your, and original poster's negativity on this. The guy is almost certainly trying to help. So thanks. And I say this as someone who disapproves very strongly of the CCP.
- jayliew 7y ago
  I don't care about "some spec". I want to know how this product, that is coming from China, isn't already tainted with the virus itself. Your refutation to my logic is "cmmon man" ? It would lead to what action precisely? I'm not a pessimist. I'm trying to be pragmatic.
  - mythrwy 7y ago
    It's not a refutation of logic though because you didn't provide any. It's simply scoffing at your ridiculous level of suspicion. You aren't being pragmatic. There is a different term for what you are being.
    - jayliew 7y ago
      I've said it repeatedly, but I'll say it again. Here's the logic for you to refute. 1. Mask / test kit made in China. 2. Presumably, it came in contact with the hands of the people making it, in China. 3. If any of those people making the masks and test kits were infected, then there's a chance that the virus itself will be actually sitting on the masks and test kits themselves. So, we just ignore that?
  - fspeech 7y ago
    Why not spend a little time learning how long the virus can survive on any mask before making nonsense comment like this? It deserved a stronger rebuke than "cmmon man" since it's wasting everyone's time.
    - jayliew 7y ago
      So if you notice, you literally defended someone's "cmmon man" argument as NOT a waste of everyone's time. How about you think about this, for a second, hmm? Studies as of now suggest that the virus can last for 3 days on a surface. So if you ship fly them over here from China, say a half a day flight, you have a good 2.5 days to potentially accidentally infect people. Are you going to "cmmon man" me now?
      - jessaustin 7y ago
        No, at this point you get a "relax, Nancy". No step in the process of manufacturing surgical masks involves anyone breathing on a mask; they have machines. Masks are never shipped by air; they're too bulky. Even items that are shipped by air take several days on the ground to be shipped from factories and to end users. Your innate fear of Chinese people has sent you off the deep end.
        jayliew 7y ago
        A flight is 12 hours. Considering it's a highly urgent need for a very unique circumstance... we're not shipping, IDK, keychains or something.
        jessaustin 7y ago
        Bulky non-perishable packaged manufactured goods are not shipped by air! It would add quite a bit to the cost of this gesture to rent out three 747s for shipping it. This is pointless. If the fastest shipping method available took a month, you'd be imagining crafty sick Chinese people stowed away, breathing on the masks for the entire journey. You have a sickness, but it may not be COVID-19...
jessaustin 7y ago
tainted OMG this is so racist. The vast majority of surgical masks sold in USA in last several decades were made in China. If they were shitting on them we would have noticed. The majority of items sold in USA stores are manufactured in China. They're not intentionally infecting them before selling them to us. Chinese manufacturers sensibly shut down in the most heavily affected areas, in contrast to those in USA. The people dumb enough to look this gift horse in the mouth are all toilet paper hoarders.

And what if the mask itself is already tainted with the virus? Wouldn't you want to verify that it's actually free of the virus in the first place? It is coming from China.

mythrwy 7y ago

Mask tainted with virus? Cmmon man, that is a tremendous stretch of likelihood. And would lead to action. Original poster was talking about masks not meeting some specification. And I'm pretty sure most of your stuff has been coming from China for a long time. I really am mindblown by both your, and original poster's negativity on this. The guy is almost certainly trying to help. So thanks. And I say this as someone who disapproves very strongly of the CCP.

jayliew 7y ago
I don't care about "some spec". I want to know how this product, that is coming from China, isn't already tainted with the virus itself. Your refutation to my logic is "cmmon man" ? It would lead to what action precisely? I'm not a pessimist. I'm trying to be pragmatic.
- mythrwy 7y ago
  It's not a refutation of logic though because you didn't provide any. It's simply scoffing at your ridiculous level of suspicion. You aren't being pragmatic. There is a different term for what you are being.
  - jayliew 7y ago
    I've said it repeatedly, but I'll say it again. Here's the logic for you to refute. 1. Mask / test kit made in China. 2. Presumably, it came in contact with the hands of the people making it, in China. 3. If any of those people making the masks and test kits were infected, then there's a chance that the virus itself will be actually sitting on the masks and test kits themselves. So, we just ignore that?
- fspeech 7y ago
  Why not spend a little time learning how long the virus can survive on any mask before making nonsense comment like this? It deserved a stronger rebuke than "cmmon man" since it's wasting everyone's time.
  - jayliew 7y ago
    So if you notice, you literally defended someone's "cmmon man" argument as NOT a waste of everyone's time. How about you think about this, for a second, hmm? Studies as of now suggest that the virus can last for 3 days on a surface. So if you ship fly them over here from China, say a half a day flight, you have a good 2.5 days to potentially accidentally infect people. Are you going to "cmmon man" me now?
    - jessaustin 7y ago
      No, at this point you get a "relax, Nancy". No step in the process of manufacturing surgical masks involves anyone breathing on a mask; they have machines. Masks are never shipped by air; they're too bulky. Even items that are shipped by air take several days on the ground to be shipped from factories and to end users. Your innate fear of Chinese people has sent you off the deep end.
      - jayliew 7y ago
        A flight is 12 hours. Considering it's a highly urgent need for a very unique circumstance... we're not shipping, IDK, keychains or something.
        jessaustin 7y ago
        Bulky non-perishable packaged manufactured goods are not shipped by air! It would add quite a bit to the cost of this gesture to rent out three 747s for shipping it. This is pointless. If the fastest shipping method available took a month, you'd be imagining crafty sick Chinese people stowed away, breathing on the masks for the entire journey. You have a sickness, but it may not be COVID-19...

jessaustin 7y ago

tainted OMG this is so racist. The vast majority of surgical masks sold in USA in last several decades were made in China. If they were shitting on them we would have noticed. The majority of items sold in USA stores are manufactured in China. They're not intentionally infecting them before selling them to us. Chinese manufacturers sensibly shut down in the most heavily affected areas, in contrast to those in USA. The people dumb enough to look this gift horse in the mouth are all toilet paper hoarders.