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I'd agree except I have friends in sales and almost unilaterally they were told to keep coming into the office, despite their entire job being done from phones

I'd agree except I have friends in sales and almost unilaterally they were told to keep coming into the office, despite their entire job being done from phones and computers. Theres a pretty toxic culture in sales where everything is war, and you have to show how committed you are everyday.

goatherders 7y ago
Really? Everyone I know in sales was told to work remotely.
StudentStuff 7y ago
Many sales environments are just fucked, look at the shit happening at Toyota of Kirkland, the town that is the epicenter of the Pacific Northwest Coronavirus infections: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/feflyn/dealership_refused_to_close/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/feflyn/dealershi...
pensatoio 7y ago
That’s so tone deaf - it’s astounding
rumanator 7y ago
> I'd agree except I have friends in sales and almost unilaterally they were told to keep coming into the office, despite their entire job being done from phones and computers. I work with people in sales, and IIRC they were the first ones to start to work from home, days before the software development teams started to follow suit. It's not a class issue, but a company or even team issue.
jbc1 7y ago
I'm in sales and every role I've held (a grand total of 2 tbf) has been a "be in the office if you need to be" type deal. Same as other people I know in it or other other positions I've considered. If spending the weekend at a convention in another state is what's needed to make the sale I do that. If drinking with a visiting client until 2am is what's needed to make the sale I do that. If coming in to the office when there's no need and I might get sick and die and more importantly not be able to make sales, I don't do that. "Sales" is a very broad role to the point where I think someone saying they do it is closer to someone saying they "make things" or "perform services" rather than "software developer" or "lawyer". It's more of a department than anything. Experiences working in it thus vary greatly.

goatherders 7y ago

Really? Everyone I know in sales was told to work remotely.

StudentStuff 7y ago

Many sales environments are just fucked, look at the shit happening at Toyota of Kirkland, the town that is the epicenter of the Pacific Northwest Coronavirus infections: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/feflyn/dealership_refused_to_close/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/feflyn/dealershi...

pensatoio 7y ago

That’s so tone deaf - it’s astounding

rumanator 7y ago

> I'd agree except I have friends in sales and almost unilaterally they were told to keep coming into the office, despite their entire job being done from phones and computers. I work with people in sales, and IIRC they were the first ones to start to work from home, days before the software development teams started to follow suit. It's not a class issue, but a company or even team issue.

jbc1 7y ago

I'm in sales and every role I've held (a grand total of 2 tbf) has been a "be in the office if you need to be" type deal. Same as other people I know in it or other other positions I've considered. If spending the weekend at a convention in another state is what's needed to make the sale I do that. If drinking with a visiting client until 2am is what's needed to make the sale I do that. If coming in to the office when there's no need and I might get sick and die and more importantly not be able to make sales, I don't do that. "Sales" is a very broad role to the point where I think someone saying they do it is closer to someone saying they "make things" or "perform services" rather than "software developer" or "lawyer". It's more of a department than anything. Experiences working in it thus vary greatly.