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WSL2 will be generally available in Windows 10, version 2004

64 points by Santosh83 7y ago

mpfundstein 7y ago
Nice. Been waiting long time for this.
brianhorakh 7y ago
Somebody pinch me. This feels unreal!
thoraway1010 7y ago
Nicw. I'm still going into a docker for linux on windows dev but want to play with using WSL2 for this cycle (deploy is to linux machines / container images). Mostly just need to figure out tooling setup (pycharm / vs code)
pkaye 7y ago
Is this already out?
jsjddbbwj 7y ago
It must've been tough to give up on WSL1 (to call it something), but it really sucked. It was full of bugs.
corporateslave5 7y ago
Huge wsl fan, really think software developers don’t know how good windows is for software dev
- mekster 7y ago
  You could run native Linux with VMware, VirtualBox forever if you mean a Linux environment on your Windows made any difference.
  - _se 7y ago
    I mean... Native 1-click support is pretty different from any of the previous solutions...
  - jpalomaki 7y ago
    There has been always options (VM, cygwin etc) but WSL made this very fluent experience. Interesting to see how WSL2 feels now that Linux things are actually running in separate VM.
    - qzx_pierri 7y ago
      Also WSL’s filesystem integration is flawless
unlinked_dll 7y ago
How do drivers work? Like if I have an app talking to ALSA or something, can I get output from Windows?
- lathiat 7y ago
  They could in theory implement a sound device for the virtual kernel though I cannot see any information that they have actually done that from a quick search. Some people have worked around this issue by setting up pulseaudio for windows and then connecting pulseaudio via network from WSL out to Windows. Works for both WSL1 and WSL2.
alyandon 7y ago
While this is a nice development, I personally still require running VMs and Hyper-V's GUI/console support is so limited I'm going to be forced to stick with VirtualBox for VMs. Fortunately, Cygwin is fine for basic shell/utility stuff and using Cygwin also means that I can continue to use ssh-pageant (talks to putty's ssh agent) which isn't possible under WSL.
fuzzfactor 7y ago
WSL appears to have significant adoption already. Is there any advantage over simple multibooting?
- hakfoo 7y ago
  Only semi-snarky answer: The song and dance of drivers, and not having to reboot. Plenty of mainstream PC configs are going to be a hassle to get to functional parity on the Linux side. You can complain "it's deliberately crippled hardware/bad drivers" but odds are, the guy buying the fleet PCs are not checking if they're Linux-friendly. If I just want to run some command-line dev tools, I can probably get there faster by installing WSL than trying to start with a Ubuntu ISO and setting up the nVidia drivers.
  - fuzzfactor 7y ago
    When the one buying the fleet PC's is a Bozo what can you do? Give full credit to them for the capabilities while fully documenting the limitations compared to alternative choices.
silasrude 7y ago
When you start looking at what Microsoft can offer now re: Microsoft365, Dynamics365, Power Platform, Sharepoint, Azure, wsl, massive sales dept. with years of experience, etc., why would the enterprise ever go with anything else? Something tells me Azure will end up kicking Amazon's ass in the end.
- x3haloed 7y ago
  That's what my company is doing. We're small, already a Windows shop, so it just makes sense to centralize on Azure.
zigomir 7y ago
I'm now very interested what the performance comparing docker on mac vs docker on WSL2 looks like! Why spend $4.000 on new mac for development if you can get $2.000 windows 10 machine that will give you same/similar/better? performance.

64 points by Santosh83 7y ago

mpfundstein 7y ago

Nice. Been waiting long time for this.

brianhorakh 7y ago

Somebody pinch me. This feels unreal!

thoraway1010 7y ago

Nicw. I'm still going into a docker for linux on windows dev but want to play with using WSL2 for this cycle (deploy is to linux machines / container images). Mostly just need to figure out tooling setup (pycharm / vs code)

pkaye 7y ago

Is this already out?

jsjddbbwj 7y ago

It must've been tough to give up on WSL1 (to call it something), but it really sucked. It was full of bugs.

corporateslave5 7y ago

Huge wsl fan, really think software developers don’t know how good windows is for software dev

mekster 7y ago
You could run native Linux with VMware, VirtualBox forever if you mean a Linux environment on your Windows made any difference.
- _se 7y ago
  I mean... Native 1-click support is pretty different from any of the previous solutions...
- jpalomaki 7y ago
  There has been always options (VM, cygwin etc) but WSL made this very fluent experience. Interesting to see how WSL2 feels now that Linux things are actually running in separate VM.
  - qzx_pierri 7y ago
    Also WSL’s filesystem integration is flawless

unlinked_dll 7y ago

How do drivers work? Like if I have an app talking to ALSA or something, can I get output from Windows?

lathiat 7y ago
They could in theory implement a sound device for the virtual kernel though I cannot see any information that they have actually done that from a quick search. Some people have worked around this issue by setting up pulseaudio for windows and then connecting pulseaudio via network from WSL out to Windows. Works for both WSL1 and WSL2.

alyandon 7y ago

While this is a nice development, I personally still require running VMs and Hyper-V's GUI/console support is so limited I'm going to be forced to stick with VirtualBox for VMs. Fortunately, Cygwin is fine for basic shell/utility stuff and using Cygwin also means that I can continue to use ssh-pageant (talks to putty's ssh agent) which isn't possible under WSL.

fuzzfactor 7y ago

WSL appears to have significant adoption already. Is there any advantage over simple multibooting?

hakfoo 7y ago
Only semi-snarky answer: The song and dance of drivers, and not having to reboot. Plenty of mainstream PC configs are going to be a hassle to get to functional parity on the Linux side. You can complain "it's deliberately crippled hardware/bad drivers" but odds are, the guy buying the fleet PCs are not checking if they're Linux-friendly. If I just want to run some command-line dev tools, I can probably get there faster by installing WSL than trying to start with a Ubuntu ISO and setting up the nVidia drivers.
- fuzzfactor 7y ago
  When the one buying the fleet PC's is a Bozo what can you do? Give full credit to them for the capabilities while fully documenting the limitations compared to alternative choices.

silasrude 7y ago

When you start looking at what Microsoft can offer now re: Microsoft365, Dynamics365, Power Platform, Sharepoint, Azure, wsl, massive sales dept. with years of experience, etc., why would the enterprise ever go with anything else? Something tells me Azure will end up kicking Amazon's ass in the end.

x3haloed 7y ago
That's what my company is doing. We're small, already a Windows shop, so it just makes sense to centralize on Azure.

zigomir 7y ago

I'm now very interested what the performance comparing docker on mac vs docker on WSL2 looks like! Why spend $4.000 on new mac for development if you can get $2.000 windows 10 machine that will give you same/similar/better? performance.