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A lot of UK broadband is advertised as "unlimited" but subject to a fair usage policy. I guess they must use a similar system to the one you described. It's pre

by osrec 7y ago

A lot of UK broadband is advertised as "unlimited" but subject to a fair usage policy. I guess they must use a similar system to the one you described. It's pretty decent, and I'm never really thinking about my usage, which is what I like (I don't want to feel like I'm going to run out of bandwidth). Interestingly, my ISP gave me a breakdown of my data usage, and I was under a meager 30gb/mo ever since my contact started. That surprised me as I watch a fair bit of YouTube etc, however, I guess it just doesn't add up to all that much.

mcny 7y ago
> Interestingly, my ISP gave me a breakdown of my data usage, and I was under a meager 30gb/mo ever since my contact started. That surprised me as I watch a fair bit of YouTube etc, however, I guess it just doesn't add up to all that much. My hypothesis (could be wrong, very anecdotal, no evidence): 1. YouTube does some pretty heavy compression to begin with (as several popular YouTubers have complained over the years) 2. YouTube in its default settings switches to the lower resolution when it detects you are not actively watching the video I think this one two punch means that you sip on data even when you think you use YouTube a lot.
- frosted-flakes 7y ago
  > when it detects you are not actively watching the video How? By its very nature, watching video is passive. Unless they watch you through the camera. It actually infuriates me when YouTube auto-lowers the resolution (usually because I have slow Internet). I almost always set it to 720p or 1080p, but I have to do it every time because it doesn't remember my setting.
ksec 7y ago
Assuming Good intention and Faith from ISP, I really do like and enjoy Fair Use Policy. There are some bad actors on the network that uses Terabytes of Data per month. They should just be throttled. I hope the trend worldwide would be Speed based Price Plan with Fair Use policy and throttling. I hate the idea of Data Caps, especially when Apple is sending hundreds of MB of Data every month for whatever reason. ( Calander, Syncing etc.. )
- washadjeffmad 7y ago
  Packet counts are a poor estimate of cost or usage. They might as well charge customers by the minute with variable rates based on how many hops are required or which companies' "web partners" you visited for all the sense it makes. Do you know how many 'broadband' customers you can get out of a 1000/1000 strand of fiber? Way more than you'd guess. And at our monopoly rates, you could pay off everything you needed to serve it to them in less time than Comcast's and AT&T's CEOs will spend caring about actually providing service that meets the definition of broadband.
  - ksec 7y ago
    >Do you know how many 'broadband' customers you can get out of a 1000/1000 strand of fiber? Yes I do know a bit about GPON, but my comment was referring to wireless. Where Data Cap is common, I see no reason why wired internet on fibre should have Data Cap, when terabytes is referred to was not that much at all.

by osrec 7y ago

mcny 7y ago

> Interestingly, my ISP gave me a breakdown of my data usage, and I was under a meager 30gb/mo ever since my contact started. That surprised me as I watch a fair bit of YouTube etc, however, I guess it just doesn't add up to all that much. My hypothesis (could be wrong, very anecdotal, no evidence): 1. YouTube does some pretty heavy compression to begin with (as several popular YouTubers have complained over the years) 2. YouTube in its default settings switches to the lower resolution when it detects you are not actively watching the video I think this one two punch means that you sip on data even when you think you use YouTube a lot.

frosted-flakes 7y ago
> when it detects you are not actively watching the video How? By its very nature, watching video is passive. Unless they watch you through the camera. It actually infuriates me when YouTube auto-lowers the resolution (usually because I have slow Internet). I almost always set it to 720p or 1080p, but I have to do it every time because it doesn't remember my setting.

ksec 7y ago

Assuming Good intention and Faith from ISP, I really do like and enjoy Fair Use Policy. There are some bad actors on the network that uses Terabytes of Data per month. They should just be throttled. I hope the trend worldwide would be Speed based Price Plan with Fair Use policy and throttling. I hate the idea of Data Caps, especially when Apple is sending hundreds of MB of Data every month for whatever reason. ( Calander, Syncing etc.. )

washadjeffmad 7y ago
Packet counts are a poor estimate of cost or usage. They might as well charge customers by the minute with variable rates based on how many hops are required or which companies' "web partners" you visited for all the sense it makes. Do you know how many 'broadband' customers you can get out of a 1000/1000 strand of fiber? Way more than you'd guess. And at our monopoly rates, you could pay off everything you needed to serve it to them in less time than Comcast's and AT&T's CEOs will spend caring about actually providing service that meets the definition of broadband.
- ksec 7y ago
  >Do you know how many 'broadband' customers you can get out of a 1000/1000 strand of fiber? Yes I do know a bit about GPON, but my comment was referring to wireless. Where Data Cap is common, I see no reason why wired internet on fibre should have Data Cap, when terabytes is referred to was not that much at all.