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Two of the most popular superheroes of today are Iron Man and Batman. They are literally just rich dudes in rich dude toys. They are the heroes of the story. P

Two of the most popular superheroes of today are Iron Man and Batman. They are literally just rich dudes in rich dude toys. They are the heroes of the story. Professor Xavier is wealthy af. And he doesn't go around helping just anyone. His altruism is hecka parochial. About the only common element is that the government generally sucks at doing anything. The only thing the government doesn't suck at is having at least one plucky SEAL/Ranger/Marine team out there that's fighting against the odds.

klmadfejno 7y ago
Iron Man and Batman are some of the most intelligent humans in their universes. Iron Man per the latest marvel films, invented self-regenerating nanobot armor and time travel. Batman kinda varies in how superhuman his intelligence is depicted and I haven't bothered to see the last few so can't comment. Writing this now I see your point was not that they aren't extraordinary, but rather the opposite of anti-wealth. I don't disagree, but I'm not claiming that every movie covers the same ideas either. However, the villains of Spiderman 2, for instance, are a bunch of Iron Man's lower level former employees who specifically call out how they got the short end of the capitalist stick, and how unfair it is that he got the spoils of everything, and how easy it was for him to dispose of them. The villains of Spiderman 1 are just some construction guys who got shafted by the collateral damage of the heroes and are trying to make a living wage. Yes; I do recognize the irony in that both of these working class groups are villains, but they're not meant to be portrayed as "Evil" for the most part. Again, not especially deep, but not "I'M GOING TO DESTROY THE SUN BECAUSE THATS WHAT VILLAINS DO!". The captain america movies, seem particularly keen on the idea that the american government / law does not define the american ethos.
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Maybe they're just returning to the roots of the word villain from Old French for a villager/peasant.

klmadfejno 7y ago

Iron Man and Batman are some of the most intelligent humans in their universes. Iron Man per the latest marvel films, invented self-regenerating nanobot armor and time travel. Batman kinda varies in how superhuman his intelligence is depicted and I haven't bothered to see the last few so can't comment. Writing this now I see your point was not that they aren't extraordinary, but rather the opposite of anti-wealth. I don't disagree, but I'm not claiming that every movie covers the same ideas either. However, the villains of Spiderman 2, for instance, are a bunch of Iron Man's lower level former employees who specifically call out how they got the short end of the capitalist stick, and how unfair it is that he got the spoils of everything, and how easy it was for him to dispose of them. The villains of Spiderman 1 are just some construction guys who got shafted by the collateral damage of the heroes and are trying to make a living wage. Yes; I do recognize the irony in that both of these working class groups are villains, but they're not meant to be portrayed as "Evil" for the most part. Again, not especially deep, but not "I'M GOING TO DESTROY THE SUN BECAUSE THATS WHAT VILLAINS DO!". The captain america movies, seem particularly keen on the idea that the american government / law does not define the american ethos.

scarejunba 7y ago
Maybe they're just returning to the roots of the word villain from Old French for a villager/peasant.