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Accenture and WiPro I think at this point it's fair to dox the individual middle-managers and C-level schmucks, expose them to the consequences of their choice

Accenture and WiPro I think at this point it's fair to dox the individual middle-managers and C-level schmucks, expose them to the consequences of their choices.

badrabbit 7y ago
I think doxing is(or should be?) A crime that should have you see jail time, as is this threat/conspiracy you just posted. Lawful managemement decisins are fine, the US is not under emergency officially and there is no direction from the government or CDC asking employers to make people work from home.
- pixl97 7y ago
  When legality and morality conflict.
  - ronald_dregan 7y ago
    people like badrabbit need to be executed, for the good of everyone else remember: this person (probably) votes.
  - badrabbit 7y ago
    I feel the opposite way from a moral perspective. People that do evil in the name of justice are far more evil than people that do first hand evil. If FB managers are immoral then even your threat of doxing is so evil you should face immediate yet just and measured consequence. The only moral conflict with the law is how tame the punishment for doxing is.
- tingletech 7y ago
  US is not "under emergency officially" because Trump wants to save face. CA has been in a state of emergency since March 4
  - badrabbit 7y ago
    It is now, and people should follow emergency orders...now? Was what FB did against CA emergency state orders or guidelines?
txcwpalpha 7y ago
I think it's very unlikely this has anything to do with middle-managers or even C-level "schmucks" at the contracting companies. I can assure you that Accenture (dunno about Wipro but I would imagine they are similar) has a strong remote work culture and has been encouraging their people to WFH if at all possible. However, Accenture is beholden to contracts and has to defer to the client for situations like this. What's likely happening here is that FB is insisting that the work be done in the office (from doing similar contract work myself, this sounds like it is because due to security reasons FB doesn't allow some of its contractors to take home their computers and can only connect via in-office networks), and Accenture either has to go along with it or break the contract. FB is trying to blame the contracting companies to avoid PR, and since one of the reasons you hire a contracting company is because it's a convenient way to place blame when things go wrong, Accenture probably won't rebut. Since these contractors work as content moderators, I think there is also a certain level of thinking that the work they are doing is critical at a time like this (both because of upcoming election and because of misinformation spread about coronavirus), so while they might just send home other contractors, these ones need to stay).

Accenture and WiPro I think at this point it's fair to dox the individual middle-managers and C-level schmucks, expose them to the consequences of their choices.

badrabbit 7y ago

I think doxing is(or should be?) A crime that should have you see jail time, as is this threat/conspiracy you just posted. Lawful managemement decisins are fine, the US is not under emergency officially and there is no direction from the government or CDC asking employers to make people work from home.

pixl97 7y ago
When legality and morality conflict.
- ronald_dregan 7y ago
  people like badrabbit need to be executed, for the good of everyone else remember: this person (probably) votes.
- badrabbit 7y ago
  I feel the opposite way from a moral perspective. People that do evil in the name of justice are far more evil than people that do first hand evil. If FB managers are immoral then even your threat of doxing is so evil you should face immediate yet just and measured consequence. The only moral conflict with the law is how tame the punishment for doxing is.
tingletech 7y ago
US is not "under emergency officially" because Trump wants to save face. CA has been in a state of emergency since March 4
- badrabbit 7y ago
  It is now, and people should follow emergency orders...now? Was what FB did against CA emergency state orders or guidelines?

txcwpalpha 7y ago

I think it's very unlikely this has anything to do with middle-managers or even C-level "schmucks" at the contracting companies. I can assure you that Accenture (dunno about Wipro but I would imagine they are similar) has a strong remote work culture and has been encouraging their people to WFH if at all possible. However, Accenture is beholden to contracts and has to defer to the client for situations like this. What's likely happening here is that FB is insisting that the work be done in the office (from doing similar contract work myself, this sounds like it is because due to security reasons FB doesn't allow some of its contractors to take home their computers and can only connect via in-office networks), and Accenture either has to go along with it or break the contract. FB is trying to blame the contracting companies to avoid PR, and since one of the reasons you hire a contracting company is because it's a convenient way to place blame when things go wrong, Accenture probably won't rebut. Since these contractors work as content moderators, I think there is also a certain level of thinking that the work they are doing is critical at a time like this (both because of upcoming election and because of misinformation spread about coronavirus), so while they might just send home other contractors, these ones need to stay).