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I've been watching the videos in this youtube channel today, where the last couple of videos have talked about this finding : https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M https

I've been watching the videos in this youtube channel today, where the last couple of videos have talked about this finding : https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M and https://youtu.be/vE4_LsftNKM https://youtu.be/vE4_LsftNKM Basically the goal is to allow zinc to get into a cell, it needs a helper to get inside the cell (a Zinc Ionophore). Apparently based on the 2nd video, Hydroxychloroquine is even more effective than Chloroquine. It's really important to note however that these are lab based findings, not from studies on patients.

biolurker1 7y ago
yes they tried it on ICU patients with better outcomes
- jbourne007 7y ago
  Do you have a reference or source for this? Thx.
jbourne007 7y ago
One would think there would be easier ways to get Zinc into a cell. Does one really have to go for a drug for this? There have to be alternatives?
jbourne007 7y ago
I looked around and found naturally occurring zinc ionophores: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf5014633 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf5014633 Quercetin is present in Red Onions and Epigallocatechin-gallate in green tea. Don't know if they are as effective etc but there's got to be alternatives to Chloroquine....
- robocat 7y ago
  I read some links implying that Quercetin was potentially useful against coronavirus, although they sounded a bit like PR/sales, and site that had links is down (bad sign?) so I can't find the links now. Edit: https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-made-in-canada-solution-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak/ https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-made-in-canada-solutio...
Parrot_Bay 7y ago
What about zinc lozenges dissolved in the mouth, followed by a can or two of tonic water infused with green tea or matcha and a few drops of bay leaf essential oil. Essential oils have been evaluated for their inhibitory activity against SARS-CoV and HSV-1 replication in vitro by visually scoring of the virus-induced cytopathogenic effect post-infection. Laurus nobilis oil exerted an interesting activity against SARS-CoV with an IC(50) value of 120 microg/ml and a selectivity index (SI) of 4.16. This oil was characterized by the presence of beta-ocimene, 1,8-cineole, alpha-pinene, and beta-pinene as the main constituents. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/cbdv.200890045 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/cbdv.200890...

biolurker1 7y ago

yes they tried it on ICU patients with better outcomes

jbourne007 7y ago
Do you have a reference or source for this? Thx.

jbourne007 7y ago

One would think there would be easier ways to get Zinc into a cell. Does one really have to go for a drug for this? There have to be alternatives?

jbourne007 7y ago

I looked around and found naturally occurring zinc ionophores: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf5014633 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf5014633 Quercetin is present in Red Onions and Epigallocatechin-gallate in green tea. Don't know if they are as effective etc but there's got to be alternatives to Chloroquine....

robocat 7y ago
I read some links implying that Quercetin was potentially useful against coronavirus, although they sounded a bit like PR/sales, and site that had links is down (bad sign?) so I can't find the links now. Edit: https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-made-in-canada-solution-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak/ https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-made-in-canada-solutio...

Parrot_Bay 7y ago

What about zinc lozenges dissolved in the mouth, followed by a can or two of tonic water infused with green tea or matcha and a few drops of bay leaf essential oil. Essential oils have been evaluated for their inhibitory activity against SARS-CoV and HSV-1 replication in vitro by visually scoring of the virus-induced cytopathogenic effect post-infection. Laurus nobilis oil exerted an interesting activity against SARS-CoV with an IC(50) value of 120 microg/ml and a selectivity index (SI) of 4.16. This oil was characterized by the presence of beta-ocimene, 1,8-cineole, alpha-pinene, and beta-pinene as the main constituents. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/cbdv.200890045 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/cbdv.200890...