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Can you explain that? Just having the grandparents near the kids? I'd think that happens anyway... no one is suggesting people avoid their own family members, a

Can you explain that? Just having the grandparents near the kids? I'd think that happens anyway... no one is suggesting people avoid their own family members, are they?

ultrarunner 7y ago
At least in the US it is relatively uncommon to live with extended family like grandparents. If the children are already infected, then yes, a change in proximity to grandparents would increase the risk of transmission. If schools are closed before many children become carriers, then no, simply having grandparents near kids probably doesn't change much for the grandparents' risk.
- robbrown451 7y ago
  The hope is that the kids aren't already infected, that seems like a very rare case. Sure it can happen, but they aren't yet recommending you don't even see family. Many grandparents in the US live nearby and see their grandkids often and often look after them with some regularity. That seems to be the sort of scenario where they'd be employed to watch them while they are in learning from home situations, no? I don't think we are talking about frail people in nursing homes.
csa 7y ago
Yes, in fact they are. Specifically, younger people are sometimes being told to avoid older people, sometimes when the older person is in need. IIRC, some place had bans/restrictions on visiting nursing homes because the potential for spreading the virus might end up exposing a large percentage of the occupants to a significant chance of death. No citation because I cannot remember where I read it.
- robbrown451 7y ago
  Well I don't think the ones in nursing homes or "in need" are really likely to be recruited to watch the kids during the school days, will they? You can be a grandparent of young kids very easily in your late 50s.
gizmo686 7y ago
Yes. For not yet understood reasons, children do not seem to develop symptoms from covid19, but they can still be carriers. Combined with the fact that schools are essentially giant petri-dishes for disease, and old people are particuarly vulnerable to covid19, means that sending a child to grandma is essentially playing Russian roulette with her life. I would go so far as to suggest that if she can take care of herself, grandma should self quarantine as much as possible for the duration of the crisis. People do not become less dangerous just because they are relatives. After the family spent 2 weeks in self quarantine, visiting grandma is probably fine.
- creato 7y ago
  I have yet to see any solid evidence for this idea that children are significant sources of infection. Children tend to be less symptomatic, and while asymptomatic transmission almost certainly happens, every source I trust says it is rare and the main cause of infection is close proximity with someone who is showing symptoms.
MeltySmelty 7y ago
wow. the people like this are what scare me.

Can you explain that? Just having the grandparents near the kids? I'd think that happens anyway... no one is suggesting people avoid their own family members, are they?

ultrarunner 7y ago

At least in the US it is relatively uncommon to live with extended family like grandparents. If the children are already infected, then yes, a change in proximity to grandparents would increase the risk of transmission. If schools are closed before many children become carriers, then no, simply having grandparents near kids probably doesn't change much for the grandparents' risk.

robbrown451 7y ago
The hope is that the kids aren't already infected, that seems like a very rare case. Sure it can happen, but they aren't yet recommending you don't even see family. Many grandparents in the US live nearby and see their grandkids often and often look after them with some regularity. That seems to be the sort of scenario where they'd be employed to watch them while they are in learning from home situations, no? I don't think we are talking about frail people in nursing homes.

csa 7y ago

Yes, in fact they are. Specifically, younger people are sometimes being told to avoid older people, sometimes when the older person is in need. IIRC, some place had bans/restrictions on visiting nursing homes because the potential for spreading the virus might end up exposing a large percentage of the occupants to a significant chance of death. No citation because I cannot remember where I read it.

robbrown451 7y ago
Well I don't think the ones in nursing homes or "in need" are really likely to be recruited to watch the kids during the school days, will they? You can be a grandparent of young kids very easily in your late 50s.

gizmo686 7y ago

Yes. For not yet understood reasons, children do not seem to develop symptoms from covid19, but they can still be carriers. Combined with the fact that schools are essentially giant petri-dishes for disease, and old people are particuarly vulnerable to covid19, means that sending a child to grandma is essentially playing Russian roulette with her life. I would go so far as to suggest that if she can take care of herself, grandma should self quarantine as much as possible for the duration of the crisis. People do not become less dangerous just because they are relatives. After the family spent 2 weeks in self quarantine, visiting grandma is probably fine.

creato 7y ago
I have yet to see any solid evidence for this idea that children are significant sources of infection. Children tend to be less symptomatic, and while asymptomatic transmission almost certainly happens, every source I trust says it is rare and the main cause of infection is close proximity with someone who is showing symptoms.

MeltySmelty 7y ago

wow. the people like this are what scare me.