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Whats the difference? She needs x amounts of money.

by laxd 7y ago

ObsoleteNerd 7y ago
The link above goes to paying her legal team. Her fine will come from her own funds separately. Your lawyers don't pay your fines, you do personally. Ideally, her legal team or someone would put up a separate fundraiser for her fine, that goes specifically to paying that. I for one would definitely donate.
- pyuser583 7y ago
  Many fundraising platforms explicitly forbid raising funds to pay criminal fines.
  - freeone3000 7y ago
    We need a paypal link and a github pages site, not necessarily a kickstarter. She's a high profile enough case to not need a dedicated platform.
irjustin 7y ago
Right, but the primary reason you would support Manning is because you believe the government is in the wrong and that the $256k is considered coercive because the government is using it to pressure her into doing something that isn't in her best interest in regards to a fair trial. So the goal would be to pay lawyer fees to fight the $256k of fees.
- Godel_unicode 7y ago
  > doing something that isn't in her best interest in regards to a fair trial You're aware she's been granted immunity, right?
  - einpoklum 7y ago
    No she hasn't. That is, she was not made immune to incarceration and confiscation of money - which is what the federal state did to her. She was only immune from prosecution about what she says in her testimony. However... she had already been prosecuted for her actions and did a lot of jail time. Plus, you don't rat people out because you've been granted personal "immunity".
ngcc_hk 7y ago
Guess be can only pay the fees and the other more general. Paying criminal fees is a bit no no.
antpls 7y ago
In France, during the yellow vest protest, there was a similar online crowd-founding for a boxer who did fight with a cop and was sentenced to pay a fine. From what I remember, with some crowd-funding platforms, it is against Terms Of Service to rise money to pay sentence's fine. I do not remember if laws in France forbid it or if it's for other reasons. Here are some links about it : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480 https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/2181379/former-french-boxing-champion-christophe-dettinger-receives https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/2181379/forme...

Whats the difference? She needs x amounts of money.

by laxd 7y ago

Whats the difference? She needs x amounts of money.

The link above goes to paying her legal team. Her fine will come from her own funds separately. Your lawyers don't pay your fines, you do personally. Ideally, her legal team or someone would put up a separate fundraiser for her fine, that goes specifically to paying that. I for one would definitely donate.

pyuser583 7y ago
Many fundraising platforms explicitly forbid raising funds to pay criminal fines.
- freeone3000 7y ago
  We need a paypal link and a github pages site, not necessarily a kickstarter. She's a high profile enough case to not need a dedicated platform.

irjustin 7y ago

Right, but the primary reason you would support Manning is because you believe the government is in the wrong and that the $256k is considered coercive because the government is using it to pressure her into doing something that isn't in her best interest in regards to a fair trial. So the goal would be to pay lawyer fees to fight the $256k of fees.

Godel_unicode 7y ago
> doing something that isn't in her best interest in regards to a fair trial You're aware she's been granted immunity, right?
- einpoklum 7y ago
  No she hasn't. That is, she was not made immune to incarceration and confiscation of money - which is what the federal state did to her. She was only immune from prosecution about what she says in her testimony. However... she had already been prosecuted for her actions and did a lot of jail time. Plus, you don't rat people out because you've been granted personal "immunity".

ngcc_hk 7y ago

Guess be can only pay the fees and the other more general. Paying criminal fees is a bit no no.

antpls 7y ago

In France, during the yellow vest protest, there was a similar online crowd-founding for a boxer who did fight with a cop and was sentenced to pay a fine. From what I remember, with some crowd-funding platforms, it is against Terms Of Service to rise money to pay sentence's fine. I do not remember if laws in France forbid it or if it's for other reasons. Here are some links about it : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480 https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/2181379/former-french-boxing-champion-christophe-dettinger-receives https://www.scmp.com/sport/other-sport/article/2181379/forme...