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I'm wondering if jail is a safer or less safer place in light of the current pandemic. Let's face it, if you got your freedom after so many years only to be ha

by Zenst 7y ago

I'm wondering if jail is a safer or less safer place in light of the current pandemic. Let's face it, if you got your freedom after so many years only to be handed a facemask on your way out and told - you will need this. Has to suck at some level.

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japhyr 7y ago
Being confined in an unhealthy space is a very bad place to be right now. This would be a great time to release nonviolent offenders.
- Zenst 7y ago
  Only if they have somewhere to live, so they can isolate themselves if they need or want too. Adding to the homeless would be placing them at greater risk with less medical and people to look out for than any prison. Homeless people are overlooked at the best of times, at the worst, they can't isolate, they live day by day. We should be focusing in assisting them as by helping them, we also help everybody else as nobody wants to be spreading this and some won't have that choice.
jMyles 7y ago
> I'm wondering if jail is a safer or less safer place It is so much less safe that a global pandemic isn't nearly enough to tip the balance, even if prisoners were 100% immune.
Cyberdog 7y ago
Sometimes freedom and safety are at odds with each other. I will always side with freedom, and take my odds against a pandemic. But of course this is an academic exercise pretending that prisons, or especially jails which have a higher rate of people coming and going, are impermeable to an infectious disease. The truth is that once it's in there, it's in there, and only the (further) inhumane act of locking the inmates up in their individual cells 24/7 (so no social time, no visits to the library, etc) will stop it.
DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
> BREAKING: NYC Defenders call for immediate release of vulnerable incarcerated New Yorkers in response to #COVID19. "A coronavirus outbreak in our overcrowded, poorly maintained jails and prison facilities would be devastating, swift, and deadly." https://twitter.com/LegalAidNYC/status/1238218556610940929 https://twitter.com/LegalAidNYC/status/1238218556610940929
- godzillabrennus 7y ago
  Probably not the best time to release convicted criminals when so many emergency service systems will be under strain. Hopefully there aren’t many innocents in there and that everyone incarcerated gets adequate medical care.
elihu 7y ago
If I remember right, Iran was recently forced to release a lot of prisoners because of COVID-19 outbreaks in their jails. (The inmates are expected to return to jail when conditions are safe to re-open the jails.)

by Zenst 7y ago

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japhyr 7y ago

Being confined in an unhealthy space is a very bad place to be right now. This would be a great time to release nonviolent offenders.

Zenst 7y ago
Only if they have somewhere to live, so they can isolate themselves if they need or want too. Adding to the homeless would be placing them at greater risk with less medical and people to look out for than any prison. Homeless people are overlooked at the best of times, at the worst, they can't isolate, they live day by day. We should be focusing in assisting them as by helping them, we also help everybody else as nobody wants to be spreading this and some won't have that choice.

jMyles 7y ago

> I'm wondering if jail is a safer or less safer place It is so much less safe that a global pandemic isn't nearly enough to tip the balance, even if prisoners were 100% immune.

Cyberdog 7y ago

Sometimes freedom and safety are at odds with each other. I will always side with freedom, and take my odds against a pandemic. But of course this is an academic exercise pretending that prisons, or especially jails which have a higher rate of people coming and going, are impermeable to an infectious disease. The truth is that once it's in there, it's in there, and only the (further) inhumane act of locking the inmates up in their individual cells 24/7 (so no social time, no visits to the library, etc) will stop it.

DyslexicAtheist 7y ago

> BREAKING: NYC Defenders call for immediate release of vulnerable incarcerated New Yorkers in response to #COVID19. "A coronavirus outbreak in our overcrowded, poorly maintained jails and prison facilities would be devastating, swift, and deadly." https://twitter.com/LegalAidNYC/status/1238218556610940929 https://twitter.com/LegalAidNYC/status/1238218556610940929

godzillabrennus 7y ago
Probably not the best time to release convicted criminals when so many emergency service systems will be under strain. Hopefully there aren’t many innocents in there and that everyone incarcerated gets adequate medical care.

elihu 7y ago

If I remember right, Iran was recently forced to release a lot of prisoners because of COVID-19 outbreaks in their jails. (The inmates are expected to return to jail when conditions are safe to re-open the jails.)