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Just to clarify, because I was very confused--you mean that there is very little correlation between smoking and additional risk after contracting COVID-19, as

Just to clarify, because I was very confused--you mean that there is very little correlation between smoking and additional risk after contracting COVID-19, as your source is entirely dedicated to. There's significant risk to vaping, based on numerous studies. [0] https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/E-Cigarette-Toxicity-Tegin-Mekala/8cddc929797c29fe37226f48bdc4e6803ef62f5f https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/E-Cigarette-Toxicity-T...

6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
The abstract seems to say "we don't know, but we'd expect it's bad." Is that right?
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allovernow 7y ago
>The inhaled aerosols of e-cigarettes contain numerous potential toxicities, some of which could be dangerous for health with long-term use. The safety of prolonged aerosol exposure is not known Could be. The jury is out.
- rhizome 7y ago
  The safety of a lot of it is known, and it's safe. Propylene glycol has been used for concert smoke machines for 50 years. Vegetable glycerin is used for all kinds of things, internal and not. Please don't spread misinformation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/ http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4487785&blobtype=pdf http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC44877...
  - nitrogen 7y ago
    The fog from fog machines has cooled down by the time you inhale it. How much does a concertgoer inhale vs. a vaper over a given span of time? Is there a risk of the heated product causing damage to the lungs that fog at ambient temperature does not? Can the ingredients, when combined and heated, chemically react to form hazardous compounds?
    - rhizome 7y ago
      I found one study where they had mice inhaling cigarette smoke extract (not even vape juice, and worse) five hours a day for a few months, and it caused some discoloration on their uvulas or something. Here's something to take 12 seconds to read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691517305112 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869151...
  - eyegor 7y ago
    And yet breathing around fog machines is uncomfortable and can cause real problems if you have asthma. Safe is a loaded term here.
    - rhizome 7y ago
      Safe is relative, sure, but not loaded. Pretty much everything can cause real problems if you have asthma, it doesn't have anything to do with PG per se.

6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago

The abstract seems to say "we don't know, but we'd expect it's bad." Is that right?

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allovernow 7y ago

>The inhaled aerosols of e-cigarettes contain numerous potential toxicities, some of which could be dangerous for health with long-term use. The safety of prolonged aerosol exposure is not known Could be. The jury is out.

rhizome 7y ago
The safety of a lot of it is known, and it's safe. Propylene glycol has been used for concert smoke machines for 50 years. Vegetable glycerin is used for all kinds of things, internal and not. Please don't spread misinformation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/ http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4487785&blobtype=pdf http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC44877...
- nitrogen 7y ago
  The fog from fog machines has cooled down by the time you inhale it. How much does a concertgoer inhale vs. a vaper over a given span of time? Is there a risk of the heated product causing damage to the lungs that fog at ambient temperature does not? Can the ingredients, when combined and heated, chemically react to form hazardous compounds?
  - rhizome 7y ago
    I found one study where they had mice inhaling cigarette smoke extract (not even vape juice, and worse) five hours a day for a few months, and it caused some discoloration on their uvulas or something. Here's something to take 12 seconds to read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691517305112 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869151...
- eyegor 7y ago
  And yet breathing around fog machines is uncomfortable and can cause real problems if you have asthma. Safe is a loaded term here.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    Safe is relative, sure, but not loaded. Pretty much everything can cause real problems if you have asthma, it doesn't have anything to do with PG per se.