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So soft. Teams should just play. Anyone that isn't sick can play. It's a 5v5 game. Next thing you know tennis matches will be canceled.

egdod 7y ago
Except that people become contagious before they have symptoms, and we don’t really have a good testing regimen.
CydeWeys 7y ago
We don't even know who's sick and who isn't because we don't have enough test kits.
- techntoke 7y ago
  But the President said that anyone that wants a test can have one, and that it is our fault for not getting tested.
  - ta999999171 7y ago
    Citation Needed.
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    - bosie 7y ago
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-messaging.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronav... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XwC9IQKBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XwC9IQKBc
      - ta999999171 7y ago
        Thank you!
      - techntoke 7y ago
        Never seen someone get downvoted for posting proof before
  - sdinsn 7y ago
    Not true.
danso 7y ago
The concern is not exclusively about the players' own health. Most of these players interact with other human beings.
- ascagnel_ 7y ago
  The real risk isn't with the players -- the real risk is that if you have someone (spectator, foodservice worker, officail, etc.) who's been infected, but hasn't yet shown any symptoms, they're interacting with a ton of other people in a short span in an uncontrolled way. It's a huge potential driver for community spread.
  - kissickas 7y ago
    They had already announced that the tournament would be held without audiences (and presumably food service workers and so on) yesterday.
    - slantyyz 7y ago
      I thought I heard that "without audiences" still meant family, etc. would still be allowed onsite in the stands.
BOBOTWINSTON 7y ago
So socially responsible. This hurts a lot for some of us. I am a Creighton fan and this was our first big year in a long time, maybe our best of all time. Sports fans get accused of forgetting "it is all a game" sometimes. It is certainly more than a game when you think of how much some people's lives depend on the money from these events, but limiting the impact of this virus is certainly not "soft".
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- RocketSyntax 7y ago
  It's not a game to those players. It's their life. If they don't want to get the flu it should be their choice not to play.
  - jgwil2 7y ago
    I really don't think I should be having to make this comment, but it's not the flu. You know it's not the flu, we all know it's not the flu. Please stop trolling.
  - gdulli 7y ago
    The decision is not about the players, it's much bigger than that. It was also the players' choice to make their life about something that was always going to lose in priority to public health, if it ever came to that.
- zwily 7y ago
  Same with me and BYU. We had potential for the best tournament run since Jimmer Fredette, and we’ll likely end the year #1 in men’s volleyball with no championship to play for. (Our last title win was in 2003.) Will teams that finish #1 in various polls claim national titles? Of course none of it matters that much in the long run but it is a big bummer for the athletes and fans!
gnulinux 7y ago
Great majority of cases are asymptomatic, great majority of symptomatic cases are very mild possibly indistinguishable from common cold so people may be inclined to ignore it. So, it's not safe to have any gatherings of this scale since inevitably many people will be infected.
- tunesmith 7y ago
  Is it actually true that the great majority are asymptomatic? I know the great majority of cases (currently, in the US) are untested, but they might very well be symptomatic. Also, is it true that the great majority are as mild as the common cold? I ask just because I heard "mild" encompasses "feels like death but doesn't need hospitalization", like the kind of cold I've had perhaps twice in my life. (Asking from the point of view of being all-in-favor of canceling large gatherings, to protect the folks that would be hit hard by the illness.)
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thawaway1837 7y ago
The kids playing are the least at risk. It’s their fellow passengers, people they meet and who serve their food, clean their hotel rooms, fans, etc who are at risk.
slantyyz 7y ago
> Next thing you know tennis matches will be canceled. That was already announced before the NCAA cancellation. [1] https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/28891268/atp-suspends-men-tennis-tournaments-six-weeks https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/28891268/atp-suspends...
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egdod 7y ago

Except that people become contagious before they have symptoms, and we don’t really have a good testing regimen.

CydeWeys 7y ago

We don't even know who's sick and who isn't because we don't have enough test kits.

techntoke 7y ago
But the President said that anyone that wants a test can have one, and that it is our fault for not getting tested.
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Citation Needed.
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  - bosie 7y ago
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-messaging.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronav... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XwC9IQKBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XwC9IQKBc
    - ta999999171 7y ago
      Thank you!
    - techntoke 7y ago
      Never seen someone get downvoted for posting proof before
- sdinsn 7y ago
  Not true.

danso 7y ago

The concern is not exclusively about the players' own health. Most of these players interact with other human beings.

ascagnel_ 7y ago
The real risk isn't with the players -- the real risk is that if you have someone (spectator, foodservice worker, officail, etc.) who's been infected, but hasn't yet shown any symptoms, they're interacting with a ton of other people in a short span in an uncontrolled way. It's a huge potential driver for community spread.
- kissickas 7y ago
  They had already announced that the tournament would be held without audiences (and presumably food service workers and so on) yesterday.
  - slantyyz 7y ago
    I thought I heard that "without audiences" still meant family, etc. would still be allowed onsite in the stands.

BOBOTWINSTON 7y ago

So socially responsible. This hurts a lot for some of us. I am a Creighton fan and this was our first big year in a long time, maybe our best of all time. Sports fans get accused of forgetting "it is all a game" sometimes. It is certainly more than a game when you think of how much some people's lives depend on the money from these events, but limiting the impact of this virus is certainly not "soft".

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RocketSyntax 7y ago
It's not a game to those players. It's their life. If they don't want to get the flu it should be their choice not to play.
- jgwil2 7y ago
  I really don't think I should be having to make this comment, but it's not the flu. You know it's not the flu, we all know it's not the flu. Please stop trolling.
- gdulli 7y ago
  The decision is not about the players, it's much bigger than that. It was also the players' choice to make their life about something that was always going to lose in priority to public health, if it ever came to that.
zwily 7y ago
Same with me and BYU. We had potential for the best tournament run since Jimmer Fredette, and we’ll likely end the year #1 in men’s volleyball with no championship to play for. (Our last title win was in 2003.) Will teams that finish #1 in various polls claim national titles? Of course none of it matters that much in the long run but it is a big bummer for the athletes and fans!

gnulinux 7y ago

Great majority of cases are asymptomatic, great majority of symptomatic cases are very mild possibly indistinguishable from common cold so people may be inclined to ignore it. So, it's not safe to have any gatherings of this scale since inevitably many people will be infected.

tunesmith 7y ago
Is it actually true that the great majority are asymptomatic? I know the great majority of cases (currently, in the US) are untested, but they might very well be symptomatic. Also, is it true that the great majority are as mild as the common cold? I ask just because I heard "mild" encompasses "feels like death but doesn't need hospitalization", like the kind of cold I've had perhaps twice in my life. (Asking from the point of view of being all-in-favor of canceling large gatherings, to protect the folks that would be hit hard by the illness.)
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thawaway1837 7y ago

The kids playing are the least at risk. It’s their fellow passengers, people they meet and who serve their food, clean their hotel rooms, fans, etc who are at risk.

slantyyz 7y ago

> Next thing you know tennis matches will be canceled. That was already announced before the NCAA cancellation. [1] https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/28891268/atp-suspends-men-tennis-tournaments-six-weeks https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/28891268/atp-suspends...

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