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You can't just conjure the necessary tests up from nothing. Japan has also had problems with testing. No one is trying to "deny testing". It is a work in progre

You can't just conjure the necessary tests up from nothing. Japan has also had problems with testing. No one is trying to "deny testing". It is a work in progress and is indeed ramping up.

whatshisface 7y ago
The FDA had a ban on tests outside of the CDC's tiny supply for a long time. That's whats being referred to by "denying testing." Not a political issue so much as a typical bureaucratic slowdown with very real consequences.
- tic_tac 7y ago
  The comment I replied to was saying that the lack of testing was indeed a political issue with one side at fault.
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    It is insofar as the FDA and CDC are controlled by the president and both agencies could make emergency exceptions. On a phone call the day after the C.D.C. and F.D.A. had told Dr. Chu to stop, officials relented, but only partially, the researchers recalled. They would allow the study’s laboratories to test cases and report the results only in future samples. They would need to use a new consent form that explicitly mentioned that results of the coronavirus tests might be shared with the local health department. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-de...
- m0zg 7y ago
  Could be a political issue as well. The deep state within CDC and FDA is likely sabotaging the first response. I see no other explanation for why, 2 months after things started blowing up in China, we _still_ don't have widespread testing in what I thought was the most technologically advanced country in the world, and moreover, are _refusing to import the working solution_. Heads should most definitely roll for this after things subside.
- roenxi 7y ago
  Not a political issue? The FDA having the power to ban things known to be a good idea sounds exactly like a political issue. A pretty serious one - excessive government regulation magnifying the effect of a crisis.
paulmd 7y ago
The WHO actually had tests that worked. CDC refused those and chose to independently redevelop their own. Then those didn't work, they still kept trying, while also blocking states from using their own tests that also worked. https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-... The states with "local outbreaks" (NY, CA, WA) are the ones that told the CDC to get bent and did it anyway. It's everywhere, the states with low case numbers just aren't testing for it. https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-outbreak-only-after-defying-federal-regulators https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-...
- Loughla 7y ago
  >The states with "local outbreaks" (NY, CA, WA) are the ones that told the CDC to get bent and did it anyway. It's everywhere, the states with low case numbers just aren't testing for it. This is what I can't get people around me to understand. No cases near me simply means no one has been tested for it at this point.
icedchai 7y ago
Testing is, indeed, ramping up: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html The problem is it's ramping up to where it should've been weeks (months?) ago. We're way behind.

You can't just conjure the necessary tests up from nothing. Japan has also had problems with testing. No one is trying to "deny testing". It is a work in progress and is indeed ramping up.

whatshisface 7y ago

The FDA had a ban on tests outside of the CDC's tiny supply for a long time. That's whats being referred to by "denying testing." Not a political issue so much as a typical bureaucratic slowdown with very real consequences.

tic_tac 7y ago
The comment I replied to was saying that the lack of testing was indeed a political issue with one side at fault.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  It is insofar as the FDA and CDC are controlled by the president and both agencies could make emergency exceptions. On a phone call the day after the C.D.C. and F.D.A. had told Dr. Chu to stop, officials relented, but only partially, the researchers recalled. They would allow the study’s laboratories to test cases and report the results only in future samples. They would need to use a new consent form that explicitly mentioned that results of the coronavirus tests might be shared with the local health department. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-de...
m0zg 7y ago
Could be a political issue as well. The deep state within CDC and FDA is likely sabotaging the first response. I see no other explanation for why, 2 months after things started blowing up in China, we _still_ don't have widespread testing in what I thought was the most technologically advanced country in the world, and moreover, are _refusing to import the working solution_. Heads should most definitely roll for this after things subside.
roenxi 7y ago
Not a political issue? The FDA having the power to ban things known to be a good idea sounds exactly like a political issue. A pretty serious one - excessive government regulation magnifying the effect of a crisis.

paulmd 7y ago

The WHO actually had tests that worked. CDC refused those and chose to independently redevelop their own. Then those didn't work, they still kept trying, while also blocking states from using their own tests that also worked. https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-... The states with "local outbreaks" (NY, CA, WA) are the ones that told the CDC to get bent and did it anyway. It's everywhere, the states with low case numbers just aren't testing for it. https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-outbreak-only-after-defying-federal-regulators https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-...

Loughla 7y ago
>The states with "local outbreaks" (NY, CA, WA) are the ones that told the CDC to get bent and did it anyway. It's everywhere, the states with low case numbers just aren't testing for it. This is what I can't get people around me to understand. No cases near me simply means no one has been tested for it at this point.

icedchai 7y ago

Testing is, indeed, ramping up: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html The problem is it's ramping up to where it should've been weeks (months?) ago. We're way behind.