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Here are some questions I have: 1. How do I actually opt-out? 2. If I opt out, does this affect Global Entry or TSA Precheck? 3. Does opt-out have any bearin

Here are some questions I have: 1. How do I actually opt-out? 2. If I opt out, does this affect Global Entry or TSA Precheck? 3. Does opt-out have any bearing on renewal of Global Entry or TSA Precheck?

hhs 7y ago
It looks like a person has to speak to an airline employee to opt out, that is, when they’re at the facial scanning system. This article may be useful for your questions: https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/13/americans-opt-out-facial-recognition-airport/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/13/americans-opt-out-facial-r...
- ericmay 7y ago
  Oh ok I see. I thought it was a program you could opt-out of automatically versus having to do it each time you might get your picture taken. Thank you!
mLuby 7y ago
Are there people who are both have Global Entry/Precheck and are against govt facial recognition? I'm curious how those two get reconciled.
- headcanon 7y ago
  The difference is that Precheck is a voluntary, opt-in program - you give up personal information in exchange for expedient security check. Big difference from doing it for everybody indiscriminately.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
  Passive surveillance versus active questionnaire. The questionnaire I did was a one time thing and it was the most ridiculously security theater thing possible. The interview went "You work at XYZ?" "Yup" "You live at 123 Whatever St?" "Yup" "Okay, here ya go." There may have been a third question. I forget. Passive surveillance crosses a line for me. I don't want this to get normalized. Plus, with pre-check it was a legit exchange. I give up some info they already have and in exchange they give me a huge benefit when I travel. Much more fair.
- donavanm 7y ago
  I am. I went through nexus because I travel a lot. For various reasons both CBP, DOJ, State, and other countries already have fingerprints and photos of me. There was no net loss in my case so it was worth it. As others have stated a clear explicit exchange with a known party is very different than passive continual surveillance with unknown arbitrary parties and no consent.

hhs 7y ago

It looks like a person has to speak to an airline employee to opt out, that is, when they’re at the facial scanning system. This article may be useful for your questions: https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/13/americans-opt-out-facial-recognition-airport/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/13/americans-opt-out-facial-r...

ericmay 7y ago
Oh ok I see. I thought it was a program you could opt-out of automatically versus having to do it each time you might get your picture taken. Thank you!

mLuby 7y ago

Are there people who are both have Global Entry/Precheck and are against govt facial recognition? I'm curious how those two get reconciled.

headcanon 7y ago
The difference is that Precheck is a voluntary, opt-in program - you give up personal information in exchange for expedient security check. Big difference from doing it for everybody indiscriminately.
6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
Passive surveillance versus active questionnaire. The questionnaire I did was a one time thing and it was the most ridiculously security theater thing possible. The interview went "You work at XYZ?" "Yup" "You live at 123 Whatever St?" "Yup" "Okay, here ya go." There may have been a third question. I forget. Passive surveillance crosses a line for me. I don't want this to get normalized. Plus, with pre-check it was a legit exchange. I give up some info they already have and in exchange they give me a huge benefit when I travel. Much more fair.
donavanm 7y ago
I am. I went through nexus because I travel a lot. For various reasons both CBP, DOJ, State, and other countries already have fingerprints and photos of me. There was no net loss in my case so it was worth it. As others have stated a clear explicit exchange with a known party is very different than passive continual surveillance with unknown arbitrary parties and no consent.