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It's not that your parent poster necessarily believes a basic social safety net is super partisan, but seems to be speaking from a point of reality. McConnell h

It's not that your parent poster necessarily believes a basic social safety net is super partisan, but seems to be speaking from a point of reality. McConnell has been called the grim reaper and is proud of how many House bills he has stopped.

majos 7y ago
Other coverage of this bill suggests McConnell is OK with passing something he sees as imperfect, given cover from Trump. > Should the White House and House Democrats come to terms, Mr. McConnell has indicated privately that he would quickly bring up the measure and pass it to allow Mr. Trump to sign it into law. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/politics/trump-house-coronavirus-relief-bill.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/politics/trump-house-c... It’s hard to imagine he would incentivize Pelosi to pass an aid bill just so he can block it, what is the political upside for him if he does that? Similarly, the fact that Pelosi is even trying to work with Trump, Mnuchin, etc suggests she believes passage is possible. If she’s just doing this to make the senate republicans look bad when they reject it, then it’d be much easier to pass something with little to no input from Republicans.
- dole 7y ago
  > It's hard to imagine he would incentivize Pelosi to pass an aid bill just so he can block it, what is the political upside for him if he does that? If it looks like it doesn't have a chance of passing anyway, it provides an opportunity to publicly rebuke the other party. He pushed through AoC's Green New Deal with a smirk [1]. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/aocs-green-new-deal-dies-in-mcconnell-led-senate-vote.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/aocs-green-new-deal-dies-in-...
smacktoward 7y ago
The Grim Reaper act only works when there's no risk of voters paying attention. Senators have to win reelection. Their positions can be shifted if enough of their constituents demand it. Call your Senators and ask them if they will be supporting passage of a Senate version of this legislation. If they won't, ask why. And let them know that their answer will affect your vote.
xnyan 7y ago
Politics is complicated and every situation is not the same. This is the biggest issue in the world right now and voters are watching C19 coverage. There’s a famous saying in politics that every crisis is an opportunity. The United States has already fallen well behind everyone else and what we’re doing, there could be political problems to resisting this too much too publicly. Also, and saying this in a completely neutral fashion, the US president is a wildcard. If he supports this, R senators fearing reelection will support it as well

majos 7y ago

Other coverage of this bill suggests McConnell is OK with passing something he sees as imperfect, given cover from Trump. > Should the White House and House Democrats come to terms, Mr. McConnell has indicated privately that he would quickly bring up the measure and pass it to allow Mr. Trump to sign it into law. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/politics/trump-house-coronavirus-relief-bill.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/politics/trump-house-c... It’s hard to imagine he would incentivize Pelosi to pass an aid bill just so he can block it, what is the political upside for him if he does that? Similarly, the fact that Pelosi is even trying to work with Trump, Mnuchin, etc suggests she believes passage is possible. If she’s just doing this to make the senate republicans look bad when they reject it, then it’d be much easier to pass something with little to no input from Republicans.

dole 7y ago
> It's hard to imagine he would incentivize Pelosi to pass an aid bill just so he can block it, what is the political upside for him if he does that? If it looks like it doesn't have a chance of passing anyway, it provides an opportunity to publicly rebuke the other party. He pushed through AoC's Green New Deal with a smirk [1]. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/aocs-green-new-deal-dies-in-mcconnell-led-senate-vote.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/aocs-green-new-deal-dies-in-...

smacktoward 7y ago

The Grim Reaper act only works when there's no risk of voters paying attention. Senators have to win reelection. Their positions can be shifted if enough of their constituents demand it. Call your Senators and ask them if they will be supporting passage of a Senate version of this legislation. If they won't, ask why. And let them know that their answer will affect your vote.

xnyan 7y ago

Politics is complicated and every situation is not the same. This is the biggest issue in the world right now and voters are watching C19 coverage. There’s a famous saying in politics that every crisis is an opportunity. The United States has already fallen well behind everyone else and what we’re doing, there could be political problems to resisting this too much too publicly. Also, and saying this in a completely neutral fashion, the US president is a wildcard. If he supports this, R senators fearing reelection will support it as well