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In my opinion, she should be free. That being said, I don't think an emotional outburst is "more proof" (maybe you meant more evidence) that it is unlawful to h
by warent 7y ago
In my opinion, she should be free. That being said, I don't think an emotional outburst is "more proof" (maybe you meant more evidence) that it is unlawful to hold her. Can you imagine going in from of a judge and saying "my client attempted suicide in prison, that means it's unlawful to hold her." The precedent would allow basically any prisoner who attempts suicide to be released.
- somesortofsystm 7y agoWell, one wouldn't just go 'in front of a "judge"' in this case, but rather also present a long and sordid history of Chelsea's very real torture by her captors. Chelsea has been kept in inhumane conditions which completely violate her human rights, for years. She has been very seriously tortured - physically, psychologically - by any measure. Chelsea has had no justice. She is not a criminal, but rather a victim of a criminally corrupt military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex hell-bent on having its crimes covered up, by any and all means possible. "National Secrecy" has meant, for too long, 'our citizens will burn us to ashes if they find out what we have done'. Secrecy corrupts. The empire will come unraveled with every secret kept, revealed. The degree to which extremely corruptive measures (indefinite detention, 'black sites', secret courts) are taken, is indicative of just how much criminal behavior is being 'protected' by the Defense Department's lawyers ..
- philwelch 7y agoFor instance, Jeffrey Epstein.
- kleer001 7y agoYeah... whatever happened to him? I hope his story gets back into the news cycle after this Pandemic blows over.
- deadmetheny 7y agoHe's still dead, last I heard.
- TaylorAlexander 7y agoHe was killed. The story left the news cycle before coronavirus happened. So many rich and powerful people were close with him... I don’t think the story is coming back unless unavoidable new evidence is released.
- jascii 7y agoHow is this relevant to the current discussion?
- philwelch 7y agoThe post I was replying to argued: > Can you imagine going in from of a judge and saying "my client attempted suicide in prison, that means it's unlawful to hold her." The precedent would allow basically any prisoner who attempts suicide to be released. In order to support that point, I provided a concrete example. Jeffrey Epstein attempted to commit suicide in prison, but Jeffrey Epstein was also the exact type of person who shouldn't be freed from incarceration.
- droithomme 7y agoI disagree with your framing of suicide as an emotional outburst.
- zouhair 7y agoSuicide is the epitome of emotional outburst.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y agoThe point of this kind of custody is to persuade someone to comply with the court. That the person in question would literally rather die means it isn't going to work.
- boomboomsubban 7y agoIt is more proof that she is not being coerced into testifying by this imprisonment, meaning it is unlawful to continue imprisonment. Most prisoner are in prison to pay their debt to society, Manning is in to coerce her to testify.