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> And I believe most "solutions" proposed are an antithesis to individual liberty. I think this is the most telling answer any of us, who stand mouth agape at
by ianleeclark 7y ago
> And I believe most "solutions" proposed are an antithesis to individual liberty.
I think this is the most telling answer any of us, who stand mouth agape at the inaction, will ever receive: rather than join together in any semblance of community to overcome a common problem, we have to walk headfirst into knowable horrors, so that some can continue with their myth of individual liberty.
All I can think of is the past few weeks where posters here on HN quickly wrote off any mention of covid-19 being anything worse than the common flu that no one ought to worry too much about it.
- fanatic2pope 7y agoThe covid crisis is climate change set to fast forward. The laughable CEI types who decry "prognosticators of doom" will be the toilet paper hoarders of climate change, angrily demanding government bailouts as the ripple effects of decreased global productivity and increased instability bite.
- miscPerson 7y agoAuthoritarian/collectivist governments have killed around 100M people in the past century; a number comparable to the predictions of climate crises over the next century. There’s a reason people insist on societies based around individual liberty and citizen empowerment — they work! They’re what has led to the greatest increase in human well-being the world has ever seen. Suggesting authoritarianism in response to climate change is simply creating a second problem — and one that’s unlikely to solve the first. So yes, people resist you trying a repeatedly failed idea again, just so you can be seen to be doing something.
- ianleeclark 7y agoI don't know why people see the only way to collective struggle being through an authoritarian battering ram. I think this says far more about you than you realize: the only way in which you could possibly imagine yourself working with another person is at the barrel of a gun.
- trentnix 7y agoAnd your plans for those who won't work with you (for whatever reason) to address the collective struggle are...?
- ianleeclark 7y agoI'm in favor of any solution that even so much as attempts to price-in externalities into the market. Examples are carbon taxes and tariffs. Now what's your solution that doesn't tread on my individual liberty?
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