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WHO: Novel Coronavirus (Covid-19) Situation Dashboard

30 points by pintxo 7y ago

pintxo 7y ago
Can we discuss the impact of visualization parameters on perception? On first look it seems Europe is way worse than China regarding case numbers. But actually checking the scale for the bubbles shows that they are categorical and the largest bucket is ">12,000 cases" thereby putting China (80k) and Italy (12k) into the same visual bucket. Why would you do this?
- GBiT 7y ago
  Yes. I use the different map - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
- hef19898 7y ago
  Good question. At least the bubbles aren't red...
- squiggleblaz 7y ago
  Two possibilities: - the goal isn't to convey information, it's to appear to convey information so they can defend themselves later on - we tend to hire artists who are concerned with appearance into roles that require visual engineers The former seems to be something that the UN struggles with. For instance, they can't indicate how many people have coronavirus in Taiwan because they need to consider the feelings of their member states. And they can call one recent coronavirus "Middle East respiratory syndrome", whereas another has to be called "SARS-COV-2" to avoid racist implications of a geographic name. The latter is a widespread problem. For instance, once upon a time, software design gave consideration to making it easy to approach and use, especially by people who might be using computers for the first time. Nowadays, it's primarily about making sure the software looks fashionable. My trust for international organisations has gone down the loo thanks to this outbreak. I am sad.
  - sails 7y ago
    This article has some decent thoughts on the quality of data-viz, which has been pretty shocking [1]. ArcGis seems to have pretty bad scaling generally https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2020/2/10/coronavirus-dataviz-sucks https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2020/2/10/coronavirus-dat...
yread 7y ago
They're showing 987 for USA. Surely, that's a bit outdated?
- brrrrr1 7y ago
  Same for other countries - this seems to be lagging.
  - tsherr 7y ago
    Yes, it's been lagging for days. Worldometers is up to date.
- puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
  Johns Hopkins Hospital version seems more up to date https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
conanite 7y ago
I have found the worldometer page easier to use than the others : https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
- squiggleblaz 7y ago
  What I don't like about that page is the way they hide the active cases graph, and when you show it it's tiny. I would like a graph that shows the active cases as its most important figure. Total cases is interesting from an immunity standpoint, but active cases is important from a "will i catch it" standpoint.
  - DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
    I'd prefer a graph that shows exactly how many tests are done by each country per day. All other extrapolation hinges on that. If the data is not available in a country (e.g. US), then everything for that country should come with a warning that says "we have no clue what is happening because we don't test"
  - conanite 7y ago
    lots more graphs on this page: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases
- Thereminist 7y ago
  My dashboard aggregate data from Worldometer and some people prefer a simple view: https://coronavirus.gg https://coronavirus.gg I want to add deaths per country as well and maybe other ideas you guys have that would not clutter the view too much...
woutr_be 7y ago
Not to start a political conversation, but why are Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau not listed as separate countries? All 3 have their own measurements and cases, surely that shouldn't be included with data from China... Not only that, it gives a false perception of what's going on in those areas. Macau only has 10 confirmed cases, with everyone recovered. Hong Kong and Taiwan both have less than 200 cases, definitely a much different situation than in Mainland China. EDIT: I see they have a separate option to show by province / autonomous region, specifically for China.
- cltsang 7y ago
  It's just sad that when we point out the obvious, the pro-dictatorship camp just dismisses it by saying "don't politicize science". But this data is in fact the result of politicized science. By bootlicking China, WHO is just expensing her own credibility. Many no longer follow the authority of WHO. For example, many countries started restricting travel from China[0] to give themselves more time to prepare when WHO opposed it[1]. Experts had long questioned WHO's decision to refuse to declare it a pandemic[2], before WHO's late announcement yesterday. There are some efforts to stop the ripple of this China political power play, particularly by Taiwanese and Hong Kongers[3]. We should all be more alert. [0] https://fortune.com/2020/02/06/countries-china-travel-restrictions-coronavirus https://fortune.com/2020/02/06/countries-china-travel-restri... [1] page 5 of https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/transcripts/ihr-emergency-committee-for-pneumonia-due-to-the-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-press-briefing-transcript-30012020.pdf https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/transcr... [2] https://time.com/5798797/un-who-coronavirus-outbreak-classification https://time.com/5798797/un-who-coronavirus-outbreak-classif... [3] https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418
  - woutr_be 7y ago
    Almost every other data source lists Macau, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate countries, and for good reason. China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan all publish their own individual statistics, why would the WHO aggregate them into one. > https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 I hate to disagree, but they should be listed as separate countries.
chupa-chups 7y ago
If you're interested just in the numbers with the option to show the development over time with logarithmic axes, i found this site quite interesting: https://coronavirus.arik.io https://coronavirus.arik.io
LandR 7y ago
I heard an interesting comment on the Recovered figure, this doesn't mean the patient has recovered and can go back to their life. I heard it just means they don't have a fever and have passed two tests for not having the virus. They might still be fighting for their life on a ventilator. Is this true?
- palcu 7y ago
  It’s highly improbable. Medical recovering I assume it also includes being discharged from the hospital.
- fps_doug 7y ago
  At least for China, the requirement is no fever for 10 days and two negative swabs. Only then they can get discharged. I'm not a doctor but I'd be surprised if you still need oxygen by then. You probably won't run a marathon either.
- toyg 7y ago
  They won't be fighting for their life, but they might have long-term damage that requires continuous care.
mg74 7y ago
This is old data, Iceland is already up to 90 cases
rataata_jr 7y ago
I use https://thewuhanvirus.com https://thewuhanvirus.com .
34679 7y ago
This version shows cases by state in the US: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
- SkyPuncher 7y ago
  I'd recommend everyone use this one over the parent articles. 1. This one is supposedly maintained by John Hopkins. I'd expect at least some level of quality control. 2. The parent link seems to be a copy of JHU's dashboard. 3. The parent link does not break out smaller regions (mainly the US).
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Buttons840 7y ago
Amusing technical flaw: If you select the dot representing US cases, then click the plus symbol, it zooms straight to a field in Kansas, and makes it appear as though all cases are in that field.
- chrbr 7y ago
  Surprised it isn't Lebanon! https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-town-being-geographic-center-us-may-be-lifeline#stream/0 https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-town-being-geographic-cente...

30 points by pintxo 7y ago

Can we discuss the impact of visualization parameters on perception? On first look it seems Europe is way worse than China regarding case numbers. But actually checking the scale for the bubbles shows that they are categorical and the largest bucket is ">12,000 cases" thereby putting China (80k) and Italy (12k) into the same visual bucket. Why would you do this?

GBiT 7y ago
Yes. I use the different map - https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
hef19898 7y ago
Good question. At least the bubbles aren't red...
squiggleblaz 7y ago
Two possibilities: - the goal isn't to convey information, it's to appear to convey information so they can defend themselves later on - we tend to hire artists who are concerned with appearance into roles that require visual engineers The former seems to be something that the UN struggles with. For instance, they can't indicate how many people have coronavirus in Taiwan because they need to consider the feelings of their member states. And they can call one recent coronavirus "Middle East respiratory syndrome", whereas another has to be called "SARS-COV-2" to avoid racist implications of a geographic name. The latter is a widespread problem. For instance, once upon a time, software design gave consideration to making it easy to approach and use, especially by people who might be using computers for the first time. Nowadays, it's primarily about making sure the software looks fashionable. My trust for international organisations has gone down the loo thanks to this outbreak. I am sad.
- sails 7y ago
  This article has some decent thoughts on the quality of data-viz, which has been pretty shocking [1]. ArcGis seems to have pretty bad scaling generally https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2020/2/10/coronavirus-dataviz-sucks https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2020/2/10/coronavirus-dat...

yread 7y ago

They're showing 987 for USA. Surely, that's a bit outdated?

brrrrr1 7y ago
Same for other countries - this seems to be lagging.
- tsherr 7y ago
  Yes, it's been lagging for days. Worldometers is up to date.
puzzlingcaptcha 7y ago
Johns Hopkins Hospital version seems more up to date https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

conanite 7y ago

I have found the worldometer page easier to use than the others : https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

squiggleblaz 7y ago
What I don't like about that page is the way they hide the active cases graph, and when you show it it's tiny. I would like a graph that shows the active cases as its most important figure. Total cases is interesting from an immunity standpoint, but active cases is important from a "will i catch it" standpoint.
- DyslexicAtheist 7y ago
  I'd prefer a graph that shows exactly how many tests are done by each country per day. All other extrapolation hinges on that. If the data is not available in a country (e.g. US), then everything for that country should come with a warning that says "we have no clue what is happening because we don't test"
- conanite 7y ago
  lots more graphs on this page: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases
Thereminist 7y ago
My dashboard aggregate data from Worldometer and some people prefer a simple view: https://coronavirus.gg https://coronavirus.gg I want to add deaths per country as well and maybe other ideas you guys have that would not clutter the view too much...

woutr_be 7y ago

Not to start a political conversation, but why are Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau not listed as separate countries? All 3 have their own measurements and cases, surely that shouldn't be included with data from China... Not only that, it gives a false perception of what's going on in those areas. Macau only has 10 confirmed cases, with everyone recovered. Hong Kong and Taiwan both have less than 200 cases, definitely a much different situation than in Mainland China. EDIT: I see they have a separate option to show by province / autonomous region, specifically for China.

cltsang 7y ago
It's just sad that when we point out the obvious, the pro-dictatorship camp just dismisses it by saying "don't politicize science". But this data is in fact the result of politicized science. By bootlicking China, WHO is just expensing her own credibility. Many no longer follow the authority of WHO. For example, many countries started restricting travel from China[0] to give themselves more time to prepare when WHO opposed it[1]. Experts had long questioned WHO's decision to refuse to declare it a pandemic[2], before WHO's late announcement yesterday. There are some efforts to stop the ripple of this China political power play, particularly by Taiwanese and Hong Kongers[3]. We should all be more alert. [0] https://fortune.com/2020/02/06/countries-china-travel-restrictions-coronavirus https://fortune.com/2020/02/06/countries-china-travel-restri... [1] page 5 of https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/transcripts/ihr-emergency-committee-for-pneumonia-due-to-the-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-press-briefing-transcript-30012020.pdf https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/transcr... [2] https://time.com/5798797/un-who-coronavirus-outbreak-classification https://time.com/5798797/un-who-coronavirus-outbreak-classif... [3] https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418
- woutr_be 7y ago
  Almost every other data source lists Macau, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate countries, and for good reason. China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan all publish their own individual statistics, why would the WHO aggregate them into one. > https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/pull/418 I hate to disagree, but they should be listed as separate countries.

chupa-chups 7y ago

If you're interested just in the numbers with the option to show the development over time with logarithmic axes, i found this site quite interesting: https://coronavirus.arik.io https://coronavirus.arik.io

LandR 7y ago

I heard an interesting comment on the Recovered figure, this doesn't mean the patient has recovered and can go back to their life. I heard it just means they don't have a fever and have passed two tests for not having the virus. They might still be fighting for their life on a ventilator. Is this true?

palcu 7y ago
It’s highly improbable. Medical recovering I assume it also includes being discharged from the hospital.
fps_doug 7y ago
At least for China, the requirement is no fever for 10 days and two negative swabs. Only then they can get discharged. I'm not a doctor but I'd be surprised if you still need oxygen by then. You probably won't run a marathon either.
toyg 7y ago
They won't be fighting for their life, but they might have long-term damage that requires continuous care.

mg74 7y ago

This is old data, Iceland is already up to 90 cases

rataata_jr 7y ago

I use https://thewuhanvirus.com https://thewuhanvirus.com .

34679 7y ago

This version shows cases by state in the US: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

SkyPuncher 7y ago
I'd recommend everyone use this one over the parent articles. 1. This one is supposedly maintained by John Hopkins. I'd expect at least some level of quality control. 2. The parent link seems to be a copy of JHU's dashboard. 3. The parent link does not break out smaller regions (mainly the US).

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Buttons840 7y ago

Amusing technical flaw: If you select the dot representing US cases, then click the plus symbol, it zooms straight to a field in Kansas, and makes it appear as though all cases are in that field.

chrbr 7y ago
Surprised it isn't Lebanon! https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-town-being-geographic-center-us-may-be-lifeline#stream/0 https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-town-being-geographic-cente...