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The issue is that we still treat prisons as a medieval revenge tool instead of a reinsertion phase for the prisoners. American prisons are a shame and there is

The issue is that we still treat prisons as a medieval revenge tool instead of a reinsertion phase for the prisoners. American prisons are a shame and there is absolutely no way that convicts come out of it ready to participate to society. This youtube channel gives a good perspective on how inhumane life is in American prisons: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzmkeda2XiYpETOP5MjotrQ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzmkeda2XiYpETOP5MjotrQ

thinkingemote 7y ago
Its not just prison, it's the entire perception of crime and punishment in the US. Its why convicts cannot vote in elections even when they get released. Its why they still have the death penalty. And why victims families can watch them being executed. Its eye for an eye, punishment and not forgiveness and rehabilitation. Its much deeper than the quality of life behind bars.
- close04 7y ago
  The system is also exceptionally biased (certainly so for a democratic country where ostensibly people are free, equal, and corruption is low) against the lower income layers of the society and based on race, while the top layer of income/influence gets a wildly, ridiculously different experience. [0][1][more] The US doesn't seem to have a justice and penal system, they have a modern slavery system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#Criminal_charges_and_probation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#Criminal_charge...
- nkrisc 7y ago
  > Its why convicts cannot vote in elections even when they get released. Just felons, not anybody who's been convicted of a crime. Not justifying it, just making the distinction. I still believe it's wrong.
  - dkdk8283 7y ago
    The felony bar gets lower and lower: it’s not hard to get anymore.
  - tssva 7y ago
    Felons not being able to vote is not universal. It is up to each state to determine whether to allow felons to vote. In recent years restoration of voting rights to felons has been on the rise.
    - nkrisc 7y ago
      An important clarification, which furthers my point that "convicts can't vote" is pretty inaccurate.

thinkingemote 7y ago

Its not just prison, it's the entire perception of crime and punishment in the US. Its why convicts cannot vote in elections even when they get released. Its why they still have the death penalty. And why victims families can watch them being executed. Its eye for an eye, punishment and not forgiveness and rehabilitation. Its much deeper than the quality of life behind bars.

close04 7y ago
The system is also exceptionally biased (certainly so for a democratic country where ostensibly people are free, equal, and corruption is low) against the lower income layers of the society and based on race, while the top layer of income/influence gets a wildly, ridiculously different experience. [0][1][more] The US doesn't seem to have a justice and penal system, they have a modern slavery system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#Criminal_charges_and_probation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#Criminal_charge...
nkrisc 7y ago
> Its why convicts cannot vote in elections even when they get released. Just felons, not anybody who's been convicted of a crime. Not justifying it, just making the distinction. I still believe it's wrong.
- dkdk8283 7y ago
  The felony bar gets lower and lower: it’s not hard to get anymore.
- tssva 7y ago
  Felons not being able to vote is not universal. It is up to each state to determine whether to allow felons to vote. In recent years restoration of voting rights to felons has been on the rise.
  - nkrisc 7y ago
    An important clarification, which furthers my point that "convicts can't vote" is pretty inaccurate.