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You can buy a Herman Miller refurb on Amazon for $500. It's a great deal. You also need a second monitor, mechanical keyboard, webcam, headset. $1k is plenty fo

You can buy a Herman Miller refurb on Amazon for $500. It's a great deal. You also need a second monitor, mechanical keyboard, webcam, headset. $1k is plenty for all of that

xeromal 7y ago
People with mechanical keyboards in conference calls can jump in a lake. haha
- wyclif 7y ago
  I do this and honestly, it's not that bad if you don't have the mic near the keyboard. The headset mic I have seems to drop audio dramatically just a few inches away from my mouth, which is a feature, not a bug, if you're using a mechanical keyboard.
- dasKrokodil 7y ago
  Using the internal keyboard AND internal microphone of a laptop is usually worse.
- nottorp 7y ago
  Just do the conference in a text group chat. I can type fast on that mechanical keyboard, you know :)
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  At home I have a cheap keyboard to swap to -) The real problem is cheap headsets with poor mics and people not knowing how to turn the fracking gain down. Though at home id just swap out my laptop and stick my works one in and plugin my Claret Pre 2 for the mic and the Shitt Audio stack I use for heaphones.
Rebelgecko 7y ago
If it's for work, see if you can get your company to order if through whoever they get their office furniture from. I know my previous company paid around $650 each for the Herman Miller Embody
travisjungroth 7y ago
Not at all the most important thing, but mechanical keyboards are going to be sold out so fast. There are tons of people who want them, but just don’t want to bug people in their office. WFH will change that. And it’s mostly small suppliers who won’t scale that fast. I imagine they use some Chinese parts, too.
- abhijat 7y ago
  Cherry MX browns might be an option, they are supposed to be quiet.
  - eBombzor 7y ago
    Still very clacky if you bottom them out which 99% of people do. Mechanical keyboards, unfortunately, do not have a place in the office space.
    - dividedbyzero 7y ago
      Half our open plan office with 15-ish people in it uses browns, never been an issue. There's almost never complete silence anyway (people talking quietly etc.), the keyboards are subjectively below the threshold of registering as noisy.
    - alias_neo 7y ago
      I started the mechanical revolution in our ~30p open plan office, now a dozen or so of us use them. I'm using MX Clears, others are using Browns, there's even a red in there, the noise isn't really an issue, just don't hammer the life out if it. Also higher quality boards with nice heavy plates lower the pitch of the sound so it's less intrusive (in my experience).
    - traviscj 7y ago
      You’ve got a couple replies saying “not a problem at my office [where I happen to enjoy the use of such a keyboard]” already, so I’ll back you up here: I have neighbors with mechanicals that bother me so bad I’ve had to pack up and go home for the day. This is over music on noise canceling headphones. Different people actually have different amounts of trouble with this, with some having lots of problems. Just lucky I guess?
jldugger 7y ago
Sadly the monitors I have at work are 1k each =(
- grogenaut 7y ago
  Why are you wasting money? You can get 5 27" monitors for the price of one of those and 3 or 4 43" 4ks for the price of both.
  - erikbye 7y ago
    What? How about some specifics. My requirements for a monitor is high resolution for plenty of desktop space (minimum 4k) and IPS panels for viewing angle, besides, I think IPS is the least straining panel to look at. When you combine these two requirements you are likely at 700+ for a single monitor. But hey, I see 80 col Vim developers, too, so everyone’s needs are different.
    - Hamuko 7y ago
      >plenty of desktop space (minimum 4k) Are you running your 4K monitor in 1:1 mode?
      - erikbye 7y ago
        As in no scaling? Yes.
    - manigandham 7y ago
      Dell 24" IPS 4k is $350: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-P2415Q-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00PC9HFNY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=au000-20&linkId=a7feb04de951ca73028bb4409af634f3&language=en_US https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-P2415Q-24-Inch-LED-Lit/d...
      - erikbye 7y ago
        Not bad, but I think 24” is too small for 4k, I would have to use scaling which detracts from desktop real estate.
ckozlowski 7y ago
The great thing about Herman Miller refurbs or used is that you can get parts. Sure, you can get a cheap office chair from target or so, but they'll last you a couple of years before the padding is compressed to nothing, parts are breaking, and it's time to throw it out. The Aerons are incredibly durable, and if something fails or I damage something, I can get replacement parts easily. I've gotten new wheels for different floors, replaced a small pad that deteriorated, and replaced the original hydraulic. I've had mine about 10 years now; who knows how long the previous owner had theirs. It's an investment for sure, but one I think holds it's value well. (My wife has a Steelcase Leap, which I can say similar things about.)
grumple 7y ago
Highly recommend it. I got mine on ebay for a little cheaper. I'd expect costs might go up though given the increased demand.
lonelappde 7y ago
Real or counterfeit?

You can buy a Herman Miller refurb on Amazon for $500. It's a great deal. You also need a second monitor, mechanical keyboard, webcam, headset. $1k is plenty for all of that

xeromal 7y ago

People with mechanical keyboards in conference calls can jump in a lake. haha

wyclif 7y ago
I do this and honestly, it's not that bad if you don't have the mic near the keyboard. The headset mic I have seems to drop audio dramatically just a few inches away from my mouth, which is a feature, not a bug, if you're using a mechanical keyboard.
dasKrokodil 7y ago
Using the internal keyboard AND internal microphone of a laptop is usually worse.
nottorp 7y ago
Just do the conference in a text group chat. I can type fast on that mechanical keyboard, you know :)
C1sc0cat 7y ago
At home I have a cheap keyboard to swap to -) The real problem is cheap headsets with poor mics and people not knowing how to turn the fracking gain down. Though at home id just swap out my laptop and stick my works one in and plugin my Claret Pre 2 for the mic and the Shitt Audio stack I use for heaphones.

Rebelgecko 7y ago

If it's for work, see if you can get your company to order if through whoever they get their office furniture from. I know my previous company paid around $650 each for the Herman Miller Embody

travisjungroth 7y ago

Not at all the most important thing, but mechanical keyboards are going to be sold out so fast. There are tons of people who want them, but just don’t want to bug people in their office. WFH will change that. And it’s mostly small suppliers who won’t scale that fast. I imagine they use some Chinese parts, too.

abhijat 7y ago
Cherry MX browns might be an option, they are supposed to be quiet.
- eBombzor 7y ago
  Still very clacky if you bottom them out which 99% of people do. Mechanical keyboards, unfortunately, do not have a place in the office space.
  - dividedbyzero 7y ago
    Half our open plan office with 15-ish people in it uses browns, never been an issue. There's almost never complete silence anyway (people talking quietly etc.), the keyboards are subjectively below the threshold of registering as noisy.
  - alias_neo 7y ago
    I started the mechanical revolution in our ~30p open plan office, now a dozen or so of us use them. I'm using MX Clears, others are using Browns, there's even a red in there, the noise isn't really an issue, just don't hammer the life out if it. Also higher quality boards with nice heavy plates lower the pitch of the sound so it's less intrusive (in my experience).
  - traviscj 7y ago
    You’ve got a couple replies saying “not a problem at my office [where I happen to enjoy the use of such a keyboard]” already, so I’ll back you up here: I have neighbors with mechanicals that bother me so bad I’ve had to pack up and go home for the day. This is over music on noise canceling headphones. Different people actually have different amounts of trouble with this, with some having lots of problems. Just lucky I guess?

jldugger 7y ago

Sadly the monitors I have at work are 1k each =(

grogenaut 7y ago
Why are you wasting money? You can get 5 27" monitors for the price of one of those and 3 or 4 43" 4ks for the price of both.
- erikbye 7y ago
  What? How about some specifics. My requirements for a monitor is high resolution for plenty of desktop space (minimum 4k) and IPS panels for viewing angle, besides, I think IPS is the least straining panel to look at. When you combine these two requirements you are likely at 700+ for a single monitor. But hey, I see 80 col Vim developers, too, so everyone’s needs are different.
  - Hamuko 7y ago
    >plenty of desktop space (minimum 4k) Are you running your 4K monitor in 1:1 mode?
    - erikbye 7y ago
      As in no scaling? Yes.
  - manigandham 7y ago
    Dell 24" IPS 4k is $350: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-P2415Q-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00PC9HFNY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=au000-20&linkId=a7feb04de951ca73028bb4409af634f3&language=en_US https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-P2415Q-24-Inch-LED-Lit/d...
    - erikbye 7y ago
      Not bad, but I think 24” is too small for 4k, I would have to use scaling which detracts from desktop real estate.

ckozlowski 7y ago

The great thing about Herman Miller refurbs or used is that you can get parts. Sure, you can get a cheap office chair from target or so, but they'll last you a couple of years before the padding is compressed to nothing, parts are breaking, and it's time to throw it out. The Aerons are incredibly durable, and if something fails or I damage something, I can get replacement parts easily. I've gotten new wheels for different floors, replaced a small pad that deteriorated, and replaced the original hydraulic. I've had mine about 10 years now; who knows how long the previous owner had theirs. It's an investment for sure, but one I think holds it's value well. (My wife has a Steelcase Leap, which I can say similar things about.)

grumple 7y ago

Highly recommend it. I got mine on ebay for a little cheaper. I'd expect costs might go up though given the increased demand.

lonelappde 7y ago

Real or counterfeit?