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It’s pathetic you’re defending this, and terribly evident you have never had to live in poverty in the states. It’s also patently, blatantly false. I paid $740

It’s pathetic you’re defending this, and terribly evident you have never had to live in poverty in the states. It’s also patently, blatantly false. I paid $740 to see the doctor to identify I needed an Advil. I paid $50 for the Advil! Your post literally incited a large amount of rage in me. Defending people like Martin Shkreli- which the pharma industry is full of - or the medical industry itself’s rape of the lower class - is pathetic, selfish and just straight up wrong. EDIT: I’m unsure, as well - how I was unable to downvote this comment.

jiveturkey 7y ago
eh? I grew up in poverty on public assistance and didn't have a decent job until I was 25. I've been hungry. etc etc. I know about being poor, ok. I also didn't defend the behavior. Get out of your personal shell and re-read it. You paid 0.05 for the Advil. You paid $49.95 for everything else that goes along with it, when you get an advil at an advanced medical care facility. You would understand that if you comprehended my post. Do you realize that when you go to any store and buy a coke for $1.50, you are only paying maybe .25 for the soda (incl. the bottle it comes in)? .75 or so is shipping and .50 is to the retailer. Every product has non-production costs associated with it, and that is what you pay for when you get a $50 advil at any kind of medical facility.
- lostgame 7y ago
  No. I paid $740 for the rest. I paid $50 for the pill. You would understand if you could get beyond defending this pathetic system. Sad and shameful. There is no excuse to mark up a pill $49.50 beyond raping the poor. That is all. Ten dollars? Sure. $49? No. Just no. Disgusting, shameful and a horrible abuse of human life.
  - jiveturkey 7y ago
    Almost not worth arguing here. What Martin Shkrelli did was price gouging (qualitatively, not legally, and he went to jail for securities fraud, not price gouging). In those specific circumstances, that's evil. A $50 Advil is not price gouging. That's the cost of getting a pill -- any pill -- at any kind of medical facility. The overhead costs are exceptional. Single payer healthcare alone would probably shed 50% of the cost, before price bargaining even comes into play, as the billing involved is insane. Inventory control, yes for an Advil, brings high costs. A nurse being paid $50/hr vs a store clerk at $5/hr (neither exact numbers; just making a point) also brings high cost. There absolutely is a reason to charge $50/advil. And that reason boils down to misaligned incentives. I won't bother to go into detail because you aren't listening.

jiveturkey 7y ago

eh? I grew up in poverty on public assistance and didn't have a decent job until I was 25. I've been hungry. etc etc. I know about being poor, ok. I also didn't defend the behavior. Get out of your personal shell and re-read it. You paid 0.05 for the Advil. You paid $49.95 for everything else that goes along with it, when you get an advil at an advanced medical care facility. You would understand that if you comprehended my post. Do you realize that when you go to any store and buy a coke for $1.50, you are only paying maybe .25 for the soda (incl. the bottle it comes in)? .75 or so is shipping and .50 is to the retailer. Every product has non-production costs associated with it, and that is what you pay for when you get a $50 advil at any kind of medical facility.

lostgame 7y ago
No. I paid $740 for the rest. I paid $50 for the pill. You would understand if you could get beyond defending this pathetic system. Sad and shameful. There is no excuse to mark up a pill $49.50 beyond raping the poor. That is all. Ten dollars? Sure. $49? No. Just no. Disgusting, shameful and a horrible abuse of human life.
- jiveturkey 7y ago
  Almost not worth arguing here. What Martin Shkrelli did was price gouging (qualitatively, not legally, and he went to jail for securities fraud, not price gouging). In those specific circumstances, that's evil. A $50 Advil is not price gouging. That's the cost of getting a pill -- any pill -- at any kind of medical facility. The overhead costs are exceptional. Single payer healthcare alone would probably shed 50% of the cost, before price bargaining even comes into play, as the billing involved is insane. Inventory control, yes for an Advil, brings high costs. A nurse being paid $50/hr vs a store clerk at $5/hr (neither exact numbers; just making a point) also brings high cost. There absolutely is a reason to charge $50/advil. And that reason boils down to misaligned incentives. I won't bother to go into detail because you aren't listening.