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Which I don't disagree. However, such virus already exists in the wild, though the chances are there, it can jump to human anytime in the future regardless of

Which I don't disagree. However, such virus already exists in the wild, though the chances are there, it can jump to human anytime in the future regardless of national boundaries.

hnick 7y ago
We should all be prepared but developed nations have a much smaller interface with the natural world meaning this kind of crossover is less likely, and many developing nations have a smaller global role meaning it won't spread as easily (see Africa & Ebola). I think China is somewhat unique here.
- handedness 7y ago
  This is an excellent point. I've experienced living in a small, developing nation for years, and while they have the same dangerous mixture as China of live animals (and the associated excretions), dead animals, produce (unwashed, washed, and already skinned for consumption all available from the same table), fertilizer of human origins, farming supplies, pesticides, medical products, hygiene products, clothing, food transport, food storage, food preparation surfaces, cutlery, dish ware and dining surfaces all overlapping to alarming degrees (often sharing the same surfaces at different times), they don't have the potential global role, both based on their size, relative lack of population, lack of foreign travel and foreign entanglements, and so on. Inadvertent power projection from a biological perspective is an interesting concept. Edit to add: I can't judge the people working in these markets and offering products under horrendous conditions. They're trying to feed their families. But China needs to get serious about public health if it hopes to improve its reputation, which is roughly the same from Tehran to Toledo with some justification.
handedness 7y ago
Regardless of where lines are draws on maps, yes. Regardless of a whole host of other factors, not at all. This particular pandemic was entirely avoidable in the first place. Food markets in developing nations frequently cause local health problems, and have all the ingredients to make a global one (as it seems to have in this case).
- blackoil 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic -- North America, .7 - 1.4 billion affected, 150,000–575,000 died. COVID-19 may be from China, but a pandemic can come from anywhere and will come again. You can taking chance on its virality/mortality.
  - handedness 7y ago
    The likelihood of it coming from any particular country is not evenly distributed, and there are reasons behind that uneven distribution.

Which I don't disagree. However, such virus already exists in the wild, though the chances are there, it can jump to human anytime in the future regardless of national boundaries.

hnick 7y ago

We should all be prepared but developed nations have a much smaller interface with the natural world meaning this kind of crossover is less likely, and many developing nations have a smaller global role meaning it won't spread as easily (see Africa & Ebola). I think China is somewhat unique here.

handedness 7y ago
This is an excellent point. I've experienced living in a small, developing nation for years, and while they have the same dangerous mixture as China of live animals (and the associated excretions), dead animals, produce (unwashed, washed, and already skinned for consumption all available from the same table), fertilizer of human origins, farming supplies, pesticides, medical products, hygiene products, clothing, food transport, food storage, food preparation surfaces, cutlery, dish ware and dining surfaces all overlapping to alarming degrees (often sharing the same surfaces at different times), they don't have the potential global role, both based on their size, relative lack of population, lack of foreign travel and foreign entanglements, and so on. Inadvertent power projection from a biological perspective is an interesting concept. Edit to add: I can't judge the people working in these markets and offering products under horrendous conditions. They're trying to feed their families. But China needs to get serious about public health if it hopes to improve its reputation, which is roughly the same from Tehran to Toledo with some justification.

handedness 7y ago

Regardless of where lines are draws on maps, yes. Regardless of a whole host of other factors, not at all. This particular pandemic was entirely avoidable in the first place. Food markets in developing nations frequently cause local health problems, and have all the ingredients to make a global one (as it seems to have in this case).

blackoil 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic -- North America, .7 - 1.4 billion affected, 150,000–575,000 died. COVID-19 may be from China, but a pandemic can come from anywhere and will come again. You can taking chance on its virality/mortality.
- handedness 7y ago
  The likelihood of it coming from any particular country is not evenly distributed, and there are reasons behind that uneven distribution.