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"I'm still not comfortable with the fact that the government will require people to attend what is essentially a religious service as criminal punishment" Mayb
by jeffdavis 7y ago
"I'm still not comfortable with the fact that the government will require people to attend what is essentially a religious service as criminal punishment"
Maybe there's some kind of slippery slope there, where they eventually start sending you to church for a parking ticket. But we don't seem to be sliding to that conclusion very quickly; so if it works, just go with it.
If you want to make a big federal case out of it, you could probably win it. But I honestly don't see how anyone wins with that outcome.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 7y ago> But I honestly don't see how anyone wins with that outcome. Then you presumably aren't aware of how abusive religious people can be towards atheists, and that includes in AA groups.
- jeffdavis 7y agoIt's one thing to criticize religious impositions on a secular activity (like addiction recovery). What you have just done is criticize religious people as a group, and claim that they are abusive. Criticize ideas and policies; not groups of people.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 7y ago> What you have just done is criticize religious people as a group, and claim that they are abusive. No, I have obviously not. > Criticize ideas and policies; not groups of people. Why? What, in your mind, is the problem with criticizing abusive religious people as a group?
- FireBeyond 7y agoBoise is dealing with this. A few homeless shelters are "open", even when they don't have beds. They require mandated participation in multiple religious activities per day. Boise statutes say "If a homeless shelter is open, you can be arrested and jailed for sleeping on the streets", and "but I don't want to be subjected to mandatory religious activities for only the _potential_ of a bed at the end of the day" is not considered an excuse.