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The Overton Window has slid so far to the right that such remedies are considered to be radical. Sigh.

kortilla 7y ago
Single payer healthcare for all has always been radical in the US. The Overton Window shifting to the left over the last decade is what has allowed Bernie to have any relevance at all.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  Has it been? Those 65 and older (Medicare), those on assistance (Medicaid), and current/past military service members (Tricare) all appear to be very satisfied with their single payer healthcare. I genuinely don't understand why this is considered a radical idea when so many citizens are happy with this public benefit. This leads me to believe that the only cohort who believes it to be radical is that which is to be disrupted by such a policy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-health-plans-satisfied.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-hea... "Americans' satisfaction with the way the healthcare system works for them varies by the type of insurance they have. Satisfaction is highest among those with veterans or military health insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, and is lower among those with employer-paid and self-paid insurance. Americans with no health insurance are least satisfied of all."
  - kortilla 7y ago
    Yes, they are happy with it just like they are happy with social security income. The radical part (in the US) is suggesting that it should be available to everyone regardless of age (or veteran/military status) without any concrete plans to pay for it. > This leads me to believe that the only cohort who believes it to be radical is that which is to be disrupted by such a policy. Then you are being willfully myopic if you can’t possibly envision people who don’t have faith in the government to not cause a meaningful regression in care by destroying the private market. You can both be unhappy with the current opaque healthcare market and not support Medicare for all.
    - toomuchtodo 7y ago
      > Then you are being willfully myopic if you can’t possibly envision people who don’t have faith in the government to not cause a meaningful regression in care by destroying the private market. You can both be unhappy with the current opaque healthcare market and not support Medicare for all. I can't empathize with irrationality. We are at rock bottom. If you refuse the only life raft in sight in the ocean, you have only yourself to blame for the suffering you inflict on yourself and others.
- pstuart 7y ago
  National healthcare has been attempted for generations now: https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/national-timeline/ https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/national-timeline... It's been vigorously opposed by the usual suspects, but it's not at all a new proposal.

Single payer healthcare for all has always been radical in the US. The Overton Window shifting to the left over the last decade is what has allowed Bernie to have any relevance at all.

toomuchtodo 7y ago
Has it been? Those 65 and older (Medicare), those on assistance (Medicaid), and current/past military service members (Tricare) all appear to be very satisfied with their single payer healthcare. I genuinely don't understand why this is considered a radical idea when so many citizens are happy with this public benefit. This leads me to believe that the only cohort who believes it to be radical is that which is to be disrupted by such a policy. https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-health-plans-satisfied.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-hea... "Americans' satisfaction with the way the healthcare system works for them varies by the type of insurance they have. Satisfaction is highest among those with veterans or military health insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, and is lower among those with employer-paid and self-paid insurance. Americans with no health insurance are least satisfied of all."
- kortilla 7y ago
  Yes, they are happy with it just like they are happy with social security income. The radical part (in the US) is suggesting that it should be available to everyone regardless of age (or veteran/military status) without any concrete plans to pay for it. > This leads me to believe that the only cohort who believes it to be radical is that which is to be disrupted by such a policy. Then you are being willfully myopic if you can’t possibly envision people who don’t have faith in the government to not cause a meaningful regression in care by destroying the private market. You can both be unhappy with the current opaque healthcare market and not support Medicare for all.
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    > Then you are being willfully myopic if you can’t possibly envision people who don’t have faith in the government to not cause a meaningful regression in care by destroying the private market. You can both be unhappy with the current opaque healthcare market and not support Medicare for all. I can't empathize with irrationality. We are at rock bottom. If you refuse the only life raft in sight in the ocean, you have only yourself to blame for the suffering you inflict on yourself and others.
pstuart 7y ago
National healthcare has been attempted for generations now: https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/national-timeline/ https://www.healthcare-now.org/legislation/national-timeline... It's been vigorously opposed by the usual suspects, but it's not at all a new proposal.