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To be fair, they seem to be handling this crisis better than we are so far.
by _bxg1 7y ago
To be fair, they seem to be handling this crisis better than we are so far.
- save_ferris 7y agoHow many whistle-blowers trying to alert the public to this disease did the US government throw in prison?
- b1ur 7y agoeh, the US doesn't exactly have the greatest track record on whistleblowers...
- gpm 7y agoIt does when "whistleblower" means "independent person publishing data from independent sources". The US has a crappy record on people who leak government data, but that's an entirely different thing.
- save_ferris 7y ago..and I'm in no way suggesting that the US has a good track record on whistleblowers. I'm simply saying that it's a major stretch to argue that China has done a better job managing the Coronavirus outbreak given all of the reports of suppression that we've seen come out of there.
- philtable 7y agoThey created this crisis by silencing whistleblowers and hiding case numbers. Don't forget they banned wildlife markets during SARS, but allowed them again a year after. This is going to happen again.
- _bxg1 7y agoSure, but the U.S. is actively discouraging/thwarting testing efforts, because ~the economy~. And our chief executive is disseminating misinformation (whether out of ignorance or ulterior motives is unclear). I'm not saying China did a great job. But they seem to have gotten a handle on things at least, meanwhile we've yet to even really start preparing. And we have the advantage of hindsight, which they didn't have.
- unityByFreedom 7y ago> they seem to have gotten a handle on things at least According to the Chinese communist party.
- _bxg1 7y agoThey can fudge the specifics, but I highly doubt they could hide the fact of whether or not it's continuing to explosively spread across the country.
- tanilama 7y agoAnd how do you account for the fact the US have been known this virus for a month since the Chinese outbreak, and still does very little to prepare for basic things like testing?
- PeterisP 7y agoThey did a horrible job in the beginning and a good job in the end. They wasted december and january (both for themselves and the world) but the february response was quite effective. https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-peop... is an informative illustration. Right now, the USA response is somewhere between those two China approaches but it seems that it has been closer to the "early China" response than to the "late China" response.
- beaunative 7y agoI'm pretty sure when those officials decided to silence the whistleblowers, they are thinking exactly what some of the US officials are thinking right now: "Just another flu."
- pil4rin 7y agoBy imposing a draconian lock down on all citizens (even those who havent tested positive)? I guess...
- oarabbus_ 7y agoYes, one that was _extremely_ effective. Personally, I wouldn't want to sacrifice my liberties to a PRC-style quarantine, but to insinuate it wasn't an astoundingly effective way to control the spread is false.
- Scarblac 7y agoJust like Italy started doing now, and everybody else will in the coming weeks.
- ur-whale 7y ago>To be fair, they seem to be handling this crisis better than we are so far. "seem" being the operative word. You only know what the CCP wants you to know.