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Gosh I hope the hammer comes down hard on folks trying to make a buck this way if they even briefly creep over 1000 - since 1000+ events are banned maybe target

by munk-a 7y ago

Gosh I hope the hammer comes down hard on folks trying to make a buck this way if they even briefly creep over 1000 - since 1000+ events are banned maybe target events in the 100s range.

monocasa 7y ago
They'll have a guy out front with a clicker to keep track. It's stupid easy to comply with while still getting close to the limit.
- TallGuyShort 7y ago
  Specifically, ensuring compliance is as easy as proving non-compliance. Unless the cops are there with a clicker, employee with a clicker wins every time.
- munk-a 7y ago
  I suspect that if it looks like a crowd close to a thousand the police will shut it down - additionally you need to count those who aren't being admitted, because everyone gathering outside of the dude with the clicker (and the dude themselves) will be in close contact as a result of the event. The clicker is effective for fire code issues (since you want to make sure X people aren't in the building) but for disease related issues you don't want those people gathering anywhere, and now 1000+ people will have been gathering (at various times of the night) just outside the venue because of the event.
  - monocasa 7y ago
    Sure, I think the limit is too high too. I just don't think there's going to be any exercising of these rules except against absolutely brazen cases of going over limit.
  - beat 7y ago
    This makes me think of airports and terrorism. I remember standing in a crowd of 1000+ people trying to get through security theater at JFK, and thinking "Anyone could just walk a giant suitcase bomb into this crowd".
    - karatestomp 7y ago
      That not even one follow-up attack like that—assuredly crippling air travel for months, at least, and increasing the cost of it probably permanently, aside from easily killing dozens per occurrence—happened in the months after 9/11 was when I started wondering whether this Al Qaeda thing was half as well-resourced in the US, and half as well-coordinated, as officials were saying at the time.

by munk-a 7y ago

Gosh I hope the hammer comes down hard on folks trying to make a buck this way if they even briefly creep over 1000 - since 1000+ events are banned maybe target events in the 100s range.

monocasa 7y ago

They'll have a guy out front with a clicker to keep track. It's stupid easy to comply with while still getting close to the limit.

TallGuyShort 7y ago
Specifically, ensuring compliance is as easy as proving non-compliance. Unless the cops are there with a clicker, employee with a clicker wins every time.
munk-a 7y ago
I suspect that if it looks like a crowd close to a thousand the police will shut it down - additionally you need to count those who aren't being admitted, because everyone gathering outside of the dude with the clicker (and the dude themselves) will be in close contact as a result of the event. The clicker is effective for fire code issues (since you want to make sure X people aren't in the building) but for disease related issues you don't want those people gathering anywhere, and now 1000+ people will have been gathering (at various times of the night) just outside the venue because of the event.
- monocasa 7y ago
  Sure, I think the limit is too high too. I just don't think there's going to be any exercising of these rules except against absolutely brazen cases of going over limit.
- beat 7y ago
  This makes me think of airports and terrorism. I remember standing in a crowd of 1000+ people trying to get through security theater at JFK, and thinking "Anyone could just walk a giant suitcase bomb into this crowd".
  - karatestomp 7y ago
    That not even one follow-up attack like that—assuredly crippling air travel for months, at least, and increasing the cost of it probably permanently, aside from easily killing dozens per occurrence—happened in the months after 9/11 was when I started wondering whether this Al Qaeda thing was half as well-resourced in the US, and half as well-coordinated, as officials were saying at the time.