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I'm not failing to see any distinction. They were sued over a bunch of things. Copyright is what stuck. Lawyers are going to use every tool in their belt. And s
by papyruskaleido 7y ago
I'm not failing to see any distinction. They were sued over a bunch of things. Copyright is what stuck. Lawyers are going to use every tool in their belt. And since there's a lot around software licensing, copyright, and fair use that haven't been established by case law because no one really wants to find the limits of it, now the lawyers get to duke it out.
At the end of the day, Google wanted to use Java and not really be compatible with Java, so they tried to skirt around it and got called out for it. This was evident by pages they had that stilled referred to it as Java and by passages of code taken in whole. So, yes, I'll contend that Google tried to get away with something and hoped they were big enough to come out of it unscathed.
It's not like this was unforeseen. And it's not like Sun or Oracle has sued any compliant Java implementations. They could have just used OpenJDK, but didn't want to play by those rules either. If you don't like how this is shaping up in the courts, it's fair to say that it could have all been avoided by Google being a better actor.
- wtetzner 7y agoI think you're missing the bigger picture. I personally don't care if Google is punished or not. But I don't want Google's punishment to come in a form that will break the entire software industry.
- papyruskaleido 7y agoI agree, it sucks. All I was saying is I think Google is also at fault for setting the stage for this. It looks like their gambit was litigation would be cheaper than licensing and now we all get to deal with the blowback from that.
- monocasa 7y ago> They could have just used OpenJDK OpenJDK didn't exist at the time. And the only reason that Harmony (the base used in Android) isn't compliant is that Sun changed the terms of the TCK in a way that was in conflict with open implementations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Harmony#Difficulties_to_obtain_a_TCK_license_from_Sun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Harmony#Difficulties_to...