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I thought that the bat soup origin was debunked. I'd suspect it's pretty rare that you come across a novel virus that's hardy enough to survive cooking at tempe

I thought that the bat soup origin was debunked. I'd suspect it's pretty rare that you come across a novel virus that's hardy enough to survive cooking at temperature and then the rigors of the human GI tract.

missedthecue 7y ago
It was from a wet market, and was probably contracted during the butchering process, not during consumption.
terramex 7y ago
SARS-CoV-2 virus is zoonotic for sure, question is only what kind of animal was immediate host and what was mode of transition. It didn't have to be eating, might as well have been transmission of body fluid like mucus while hunting or cutting meat.
mordechai9000 7y ago
I don't know anything about the likelihood of the bat origin theory, but it wouldn't have to pass through the gut. It could pass from mucous, saliva, or other secretion, or internal fluids/tissues. If it got on a surface at any point during processing, either the people handling the animal or someone else could transfer it to their own noise/eyes/mouth just by accident.
- swasheck 7y ago
  that's a great point. thanks for the corrective.
riyadparvez 7y ago
> I thought that the bat soup origin was debunked Bat soup was used as an example. It would help the discussion if we stop taking everything in the most literal way possible.
- swasheck 7y ago
  You didn't use it as an example, I was recalling from the initial theories when "coronavirus" was making the news. It would also be helpful to the discussion if "we" stopped casting broad nets and making sweeping generalizations without specifics and context. "Eating exotic animals" has no real meaning. Bats may not be exotic in that region. Additionally, you specifically said "eating" and, so, my comment was specifically directed at the consumption of animals. In that case, cattle (not "exotic" in my region) can carry bovine spongiform encephalopathy which _can_ survive ingestion (most likely CNS tissues). So, when dealing with science-y sort of things, making generalizations in order to support an opinion, you're basically opening yourself up to people (like myself) who desire specificity and factual support. As was mentioned in an erudite child comment, the most likely form of transmission was in the preparation of the foodstuff, so if you believe that more caution should be exercised, then you'd get no complaints from me.

missedthecue 7y ago

It was from a wet market, and was probably contracted during the butchering process, not during consumption.

terramex 7y ago

SARS-CoV-2 virus is zoonotic for sure, question is only what kind of animal was immediate host and what was mode of transition. It didn't have to be eating, might as well have been transmission of body fluid like mucus while hunting or cutting meat.

mordechai9000 7y ago

I don't know anything about the likelihood of the bat origin theory, but it wouldn't have to pass through the gut. It could pass from mucous, saliva, or other secretion, or internal fluids/tissues. If it got on a surface at any point during processing, either the people handling the animal or someone else could transfer it to their own noise/eyes/mouth just by accident.

swasheck 7y ago
that's a great point. thanks for the corrective.

riyadparvez 7y ago

> I thought that the bat soup origin was debunked Bat soup was used as an example. It would help the discussion if we stop taking everything in the most literal way possible.

swasheck 7y ago
You didn't use it as an example, I was recalling from the initial theories when "coronavirus" was making the news. It would also be helpful to the discussion if "we" stopped casting broad nets and making sweeping generalizations without specifics and context. "Eating exotic animals" has no real meaning. Bats may not be exotic in that region. Additionally, you specifically said "eating" and, so, my comment was specifically directed at the consumption of animals. In that case, cattle (not "exotic" in my region) can carry bovine spongiform encephalopathy which _can_ survive ingestion (most likely CNS tissues). So, when dealing with science-y sort of things, making generalizations in order to support an opinion, you're basically opening yourself up to people (like myself) who desire specificity and factual support. As was mentioned in an erudite child comment, the most likely form of transmission was in the preparation of the foodstuff, so if you believe that more caution should be exercised, then you'd get no complaints from me.