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That's what skeptics in Italy were originally saying. Now people in Lombardy are dying from strokes because hospitals can't admit them because ICU is overrun by

That's what skeptics in Italy were originally saying. Now people in Lombardy are dying from strokes because hospitals can't admit them because ICU is overrun by Covid-19 patients. Sure, if you break your leg and die from bleeding out because all local hospitals are busy treating bilateral pneumonia patients you technically didn't die from Covid-19, but ....

lou1306 7y ago
> Now people in Lombardy are dying from strokes because hospitals can't admit them Now wait a minute. If you have a source on that, please do provide it. Because I am from Italy and I have never heard of such things. (There were cases of people who died from a stroke and tested positive to COVID-19, but that's all I know)
- anthonybsd 7y ago
  Part 5 of this thread: https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538 https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/123714289107769753... Perhaps it's an issue with translation, but then I'm entirely unsure what he means by "Arrest".
  - greedo 7y ago
    I think it's pretty clear that he means cardiac arrest.
    - anthonybsd 7y ago
      That was my interpretation too.
  - lou1306 7y ago
    Thank you, even though I am honestly not sure if I can trust a Twitter thread. For instance, this article [1] (in Italian) says that "up until now [yesterday], no patient who could have benefited from intensive care has been excluded". BUT it also says Lombardy might be headed that way if the virus keeps spreading at this rate. Just to be clear, I do not want to downplay what is happening in any way. But I feel it is better if we stick to verifiable info. [1] https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/10/coronavirus-il-coordinatore-delle-terapie-intensive-lombarde-nessun-vecchio-escluso-ma-succedera-se-non-fermiamo-il-contagio/5732230/ https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/10/coronavirus-il-c...
    - anthonybsd 7y ago
      Fair point, thank you.
swasheck 7y ago
This is where I'm currently battling my south-Denver community. They're all up in arms reciting the GP's facts-in-a-vaccuum. They honestly don't give a rip about the extreme pressure it's put on healthcare systems in Italy (let alone Seattle). They're mad at the local government for "bordering on hysteria" because they're following the South Korean model for management. Once it's fully spread through our community because the've decided they're entitled to be carriers (because, hey, you're more likely to die of the flu), they'll blame that same government for failing to provide the requisite care in the community.

lou1306 7y ago

> Now people in Lombardy are dying from strokes because hospitals can't admit them Now wait a minute. If you have a source on that, please do provide it. Because I am from Italy and I have never heard of such things. (There were cases of people who died from a stroke and tested positive to COVID-19, but that's all I know)

anthonybsd 7y ago
Part 5 of this thread: https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538 https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/123714289107769753... Perhaps it's an issue with translation, but then I'm entirely unsure what he means by "Arrest".
- greedo 7y ago
  I think it's pretty clear that he means cardiac arrest.
  - anthonybsd 7y ago
    That was my interpretation too.
- lou1306 7y ago
  Thank you, even though I am honestly not sure if I can trust a Twitter thread. For instance, this article [1] (in Italian) says that "up until now [yesterday], no patient who could have benefited from intensive care has been excluded". BUT it also says Lombardy might be headed that way if the virus keeps spreading at this rate. Just to be clear, I do not want to downplay what is happening in any way. But I feel it is better if we stick to verifiable info. [1] https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/10/coronavirus-il-coordinatore-delle-terapie-intensive-lombarde-nessun-vecchio-escluso-ma-succedera-se-non-fermiamo-il-contagio/5732230/ https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/10/coronavirus-il-c...
  - anthonybsd 7y ago
    Fair point, thank you.

swasheck 7y ago

This is where I'm currently battling my south-Denver community. They're all up in arms reciting the GP's facts-in-a-vaccuum. They honestly don't give a rip about the extreme pressure it's put on healthcare systems in Italy (let alone Seattle). They're mad at the local government for "bordering on hysteria" because they're following the South Korean model for management. Once it's fully spread through our community because the've decided they're entitled to be carriers (because, hey, you're more likely to die of the flu), they'll blame that same government for failing to provide the requisite care in the community.