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As a Norwegian I want to point out that there are no Norwegian owners of Norwegian Cruise Lines. It is to my knowledge fully American owned. It was Norwegian lo

As a Norwegian I want to point out that there are no Norwegian owners of Norwegian Cruise Lines. It is to my knowledge fully American owned. It was Norwegian long time ago. Sorry just don’t want to get us associated with such extremely unethical behavior. Frankly it ought to be punishable in the justice system.

tenant 7y ago
Sadly you are probably correct. The Nordics are the perfect cousins the rest of us Europeans keep being unfavourably compared to. We have to keep digging!
- nothrabannosir 7y ago
  If you’re really looking: Norway makes a significant chunk of money from oil exports, contributing to (and profiting from) what is arguably the greatest threat facing our civilisation today. Finland, on the other hand.. much respect :)
  - tyfon 7y ago
    Hopefully we'll put the CO2 back into the wells [1] and stop opening new wells :) I was quite livid when they opened a new major oil field last year but it takes time to change things. https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/energy/carbon-capture-and-storage/id86982/ https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/energy/carbon-capture-a...
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  - joshklein 7y ago
    On the other hand, 98% of their domestic electricity is renewable (95% hydroelectric). If other nations followed Norway's lead by nationalizing their respective oil sectors, it could be an important step towards curbing consumption.
    - ericmay 7y ago
      Well, then if 98% is already renewable, why keep pumping oil out of the ground and contributing to global warming? (Hint: money) I don't really think there's a way around this for Norwegians. If you're upset about climate change (and you should be) then you should also be honest that continuing to extract and sell oil is contributing to the problem. It's nice that Norway has a small, homogenous population in a country with low population density, great education, and opportunities for easy (relatively speaking) renewable energy. Many countries don't have those luxuries. With that being said, I applaud Norway in general as a country. I think they do a lot of great stuff. But I think it's fair to point out what I perceive as a shortcoming that they currently have in the context of this discussion.
      - martinhath 7y ago
        You criticize Norway for continuing to pump up oil, which you attribute to greed, and then, in the same comment, point out that many other countries don't have the opportunities for renewable energy that Norway (allegedly) has. Do you not see a connection here? > It's nice that Norway has a small, homogenous population in a country with low population density, great education This all seems off-topic to me. > But I think it's fair to point out what I perceive as a shortcoming that they currently have in the context of this discussion. Considering this post is about an US based cruise ship lying about a virus, nothing in your comment is really appropriate for "the context of this discussion".
        jjeaff 7y ago
        He is pointing out that Norway's massive oil wealth and small, homogenous, educated population makes pursuing green energy goals much easier.
    - nothrabannosir 7y ago
      Unfortunately not. They sell most of it, and buy fossil fuels for 58% of their own energy consumption. https://www.nve.no/energiforsyning/varedeklarasjon/nasjonal-varedeklarasjon-2018/ https://www.nve.no/energiforsyning/varedeklarasjon/nasjonal-... Their politicians love touting that 98% green energy production but it’s incredibly misleading. Sorry by the way I really don’t mean to take this conversation so off topic. It was meant half tongue in cheek :) every country has blind spots and this was about coronavirus and cruises, not global warming! And this is only their politicians; Norwegians are the most lovely people. Nothing against the country. I’ll leave it here. Sorry again.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    You might find some more ticking timebombs (seamines?) waiting to be uncovered in Norway's fishing industry. IIRC, fishing industry and oil industry were 2 major reasons why they did not want to join EU. Then again, I'm from NL. Same with our fishing industry, and Shell has done some naughty things in the past, too.
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temptemptemp111 7y ago
Why not point out that they were right about Corona being a sham basically? It's flu season and that's it... As a Norweigian you're as conformist and appealing to authority as I expect.
eumenides1 7y ago
That will teach you to sell your business to America/International conglomerates! /s I wonder if a country can force a multinational to stop using a country name because of misrepresentation. i.e Norway (tourism?) forces Norwegian Cruises to stop using its name.
- adwww 7y ago
  Iceland the country has sued Iceland the British supermarket several times over various trademark and naming issues.
sharken 7y ago
Good point! I can add that the name Norwegian is associated with the Airline company here in the nordics. So using just Norwegian in the headline is unfortunate.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  I would think that association holds all over Europe. They are the 9th largest European airline, with 130 destinations.
  - HenryBemis 7y ago
    And to their (Norwegian Air) honor they provide WiFi at no extra cost (at least I had it anytime I was flying from Helsinki to London or the reverse). Fantastic airline. I wish they could expand more and take some routes from Wizz/Ryan.
- Jommi 7y ago
  The headline needs to be changed.
jonplackett 7y ago
I read the headline and though 'Norway! Surly they're a decent country' and was relieved to see it's a big corp. Unsurprising to see lying in sales tactics but this is really bad. This must be criminal somehow? Fraud at least?

tenant 7y ago

Sadly you are probably correct. The Nordics are the perfect cousins the rest of us Europeans keep being unfavourably compared to. We have to keep digging!

nothrabannosir 7y ago
If you’re really looking: Norway makes a significant chunk of money from oil exports, contributing to (and profiting from) what is arguably the greatest threat facing our civilisation today. Finland, on the other hand.. much respect :)
- tyfon 7y ago
  Hopefully we'll put the CO2 back into the wells [1] and stop opening new wells :) I was quite livid when they opened a new major oil field last year but it takes time to change things. https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/energy/carbon-capture-and-storage/id86982/ https://www.regjeringen.no/en/topics/energy/carbon-capture-a...
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- joshklein 7y ago
  On the other hand, 98% of their domestic electricity is renewable (95% hydroelectric). If other nations followed Norway's lead by nationalizing their respective oil sectors, it could be an important step towards curbing consumption.
  - ericmay 7y ago
    Well, then if 98% is already renewable, why keep pumping oil out of the ground and contributing to global warming? (Hint: money) I don't really think there's a way around this for Norwegians. If you're upset about climate change (and you should be) then you should also be honest that continuing to extract and sell oil is contributing to the problem. It's nice that Norway has a small, homogenous population in a country with low population density, great education, and opportunities for easy (relatively speaking) renewable energy. Many countries don't have those luxuries. With that being said, I applaud Norway in general as a country. I think they do a lot of great stuff. But I think it's fair to point out what I perceive as a shortcoming that they currently have in the context of this discussion.
    - martinhath 7y ago
      You criticize Norway for continuing to pump up oil, which you attribute to greed, and then, in the same comment, point out that many other countries don't have the opportunities for renewable energy that Norway (allegedly) has. Do you not see a connection here? > It's nice that Norway has a small, homogenous population in a country with low population density, great education This all seems off-topic to me. > But I think it's fair to point out what I perceive as a shortcoming that they currently have in the context of this discussion. Considering this post is about an US based cruise ship lying about a virus, nothing in your comment is really appropriate for "the context of this discussion".
      - jjeaff 7y ago
        He is pointing out that Norway's massive oil wealth and small, homogenous, educated population makes pursuing green energy goals much easier.
  - nothrabannosir 7y ago
    Unfortunately not. They sell most of it, and buy fossil fuels for 58% of their own energy consumption. https://www.nve.no/energiforsyning/varedeklarasjon/nasjonal-varedeklarasjon-2018/ https://www.nve.no/energiforsyning/varedeklarasjon/nasjonal-... Their politicians love touting that 98% green energy production but it’s incredibly misleading. Sorry by the way I really don’t mean to take this conversation so off topic. It was meant half tongue in cheek :) every country has blind spots and this was about coronavirus and cruises, not global warming! And this is only their politicians; Norwegians are the most lovely people. Nothing against the country. I’ll leave it here. Sorry again.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  You might find some more ticking timebombs (seamines?) waiting to be uncovered in Norway's fishing industry. IIRC, fishing industry and oil industry were 2 major reasons why they did not want to join EU. Then again, I'm from NL. Same with our fishing industry, and Shell has done some naughty things in the past, too.

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temptemptemp111 7y ago

Why not point out that they were right about Corona being a sham basically? It's flu season and that's it... As a Norweigian you're as conformist and appealing to authority as I expect.

eumenides1 7y ago

That will teach you to sell your business to America/International conglomerates! /s I wonder if a country can force a multinational to stop using a country name because of misrepresentation. i.e Norway (tourism?) forces Norwegian Cruises to stop using its name.

adwww 7y ago
Iceland the country has sued Iceland the British supermarket several times over various trademark and naming issues.

sharken 7y ago

Good point! I can add that the name Norwegian is associated with the Airline company here in the nordics. So using just Norwegian in the headline is unfortunate.

Symbiote 7y ago
I would think that association holds all over Europe. They are the 9th largest European airline, with 130 destinations.
- HenryBemis 7y ago
  And to their (Norwegian Air) honor they provide WiFi at no extra cost (at least I had it anytime I was flying from Helsinki to London or the reverse). Fantastic airline. I wish they could expand more and take some routes from Wizz/Ryan.
Jommi 7y ago
The headline needs to be changed.

jonplackett 7y ago

I read the headline and though 'Norway! Surly they're a decent country' and was relieved to see it's a big corp. Unsurprising to see lying in sales tactics but this is really bad. This must be criminal somehow? Fraud at least?