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I'm just curious why my comment regarding patent was deleted ? Yes we developed a device that implements this same idea of sharing GPS data over mesh (868 ISM)

by ruslan 7y ago

I'm just curious why my comment regarding patent was deleted ? Yes we developed a device that implements this same idea of sharing GPS data over mesh (868 ISM) network and patented it in 2014. The patent is still valid and supported. If someone is interested in further development of this idea, please contact me, we would be happy to sell this patent along with schematics and source codes for fair price.

londons_explore 7y ago
Raising awareness that something is patented on a public forum isn't considered polite. Knowledge of something being patented changes potential damages to punitive damages, making potential lawsuit costs 3x. Hence, nearly all tech industries prevent discussion of patent specifics outside forums designed for patent discussion. Otherwise anyone who reads this page is increasing their liability 3x, which isn't what HN wants to inflict on its users.
luma 7y ago
Your post said nothing about the patent itself, and simply stated that this open source project should be paying you. It's not exactly the best approach on a site like this. How about outlining the specific patent claims you feel are being violated here, along with links to the patents in question? That approach would feel a lot more helpful and a lot less like a shakedown. If you've somehow managed to get a patent on sending GPS coords over LoRa I think a lot of people in this space are going to be interested in that. Nearly every LoRa application in the field is going to find themselves in violation.
- ruslan 7y ago
  Don't get me wrong, I'm not a patent troll, neither I want to sue anyone - that is against my attutude (I consider myself an old time hacker rooting from late 80s :)). I'm just a co-developer and co-holder of the patent for a device that does, among other things, exactly what topic starter described. We began developing it back in 2011 and proceeded for several years, we had been spending our free time and "pocket" money on it. In case you are interested it took us to route and assemble 22 versions of PCB prototype of the main board and 5 prototypes of a radio. We even exhibited it at one of the electronics show in Moscow. As we failed to find sufficient investment to push it to the market, we decided to freeze the project in 2015. In my initial comment that was silently and shamefully deleted, I proposed to aquire our patent, that's what might have any value today, as schematics and hardware are all outdated. As mentioned above, discussing patent details on public is not any good idea, that is why I simply pointed that I can be contacted on these matters. I understand that hackers are strictly opposed to any sort of patents or copyright. But it is not avoidable topic once you are into business of settling or growing your own company (or a startup). And this is a startup place, isn't it ?
  - luma 7y ago
    You sound like a reasonable person and I have every reason to believe you’re acting in good faith. Your website suggests a patent pending in Russia. I am completely unfamiliar with Russian IP law which might be the source of my misunderstanding. Having said that, is there a reason you won’t provide the specific patent(s) in question? I would presume they are a matter of public record when they were issued.
    - ruslan 7y ago
      The site had not been updated when the patent issued, sorry about that. Patent # RU 2559714. Exchanging GPS data is just a part of the device, btw.

by ruslan 7y ago

londons_explore 7y ago

Raising awareness that something is patented on a public forum isn't considered polite. Knowledge of something being patented changes potential damages to punitive damages, making potential lawsuit costs 3x. Hence, nearly all tech industries prevent discussion of patent specifics outside forums designed for patent discussion. Otherwise anyone who reads this page is increasing their liability 3x, which isn't what HN wants to inflict on its users.

luma 7y ago

Your post said nothing about the patent itself, and simply stated that this open source project should be paying you. It's not exactly the best approach on a site like this. How about outlining the specific patent claims you feel are being violated here, along with links to the patents in question? That approach would feel a lot more helpful and a lot less like a shakedown. If you've somehow managed to get a patent on sending GPS coords over LoRa I think a lot of people in this space are going to be interested in that. Nearly every LoRa application in the field is going to find themselves in violation.

ruslan 7y ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a patent troll, neither I want to sue anyone - that is against my attutude (I consider myself an old time hacker rooting from late 80s :)). I'm just a co-developer and co-holder of the patent for a device that does, among other things, exactly what topic starter described. We began developing it back in 2011 and proceeded for several years, we had been spending our free time and "pocket" money on it. In case you are interested it took us to route and assemble 22 versions of PCB prototype of the main board and 5 prototypes of a radio. We even exhibited it at one of the electronics show in Moscow. As we failed to find sufficient investment to push it to the market, we decided to freeze the project in 2015. In my initial comment that was silently and shamefully deleted, I proposed to aquire our patent, that's what might have any value today, as schematics and hardware are all outdated. As mentioned above, discussing patent details on public is not any good idea, that is why I simply pointed that I can be contacted on these matters. I understand that hackers are strictly opposed to any sort of patents or copyright. But it is not avoidable topic once you are into business of settling or growing your own company (or a startup). And this is a startup place, isn't it ?
- luma 7y ago
  You sound like a reasonable person and I have every reason to believe you’re acting in good faith. Your website suggests a patent pending in Russia. I am completely unfamiliar with Russian IP law which might be the source of my misunderstanding. Having said that, is there a reason you won’t provide the specific patent(s) in question? I would presume they are a matter of public record when they were issued.
  - ruslan 7y ago
    The site had not been updated when the patent issued, sorry about that. Patent # RU 2559714. Exchanging GPS data is just a part of the device, btw.