Are we really at the point where the only schools that count as "top-tier" are MIT and Caltech now? I can't believe people here are talking about Berkeley like

Are we really at the point where the only schools that count as "top-tier" are MIT and Caltech now? I can't believe people here are talking about Berkeley like it's some sort of a fallback option. Look at http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/com/search http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/com/s... Sure it's for graduate schools, but I have to imagine that it tracks pretty close. In my experience, most of the programs there in the top 20 are all pretty comparable. (FYI, University of Michigan, loved it)