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It's sad to see even otherwise knowledgeable people jump on bugs when it's Microsoft while Apple(eg. 3rd generation iPod Touch and iPhones getting superslow for

It's sad to see even otherwise knowledgeable people jump on bugs when it's Microsoft while Apple(eg. 3rd generation iPod Touch and iPhones getting superslow for months with iOS 4.0 update), and Google (all the crazy unfixed bugs in SMS like in the other article on the FP, contrast the comments there) get a free pass. Managing the tens or hundreds of millions of code dating back to the 80s is not easy. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/02/19.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/02/19.html When it's MS, the comments and moderation are always about malice and incompetence, even on HN. I remember someone on Reddit calling HN an Apple fanboy club. I guess they're not that far from the truth looking at the comments and moderation for the articles here.

rbanffy 16y ago
Why are you implying that Apple and Google being fallible makes it OK to ship buggy software? It's not OK. It happens, regrettably, and has to be corrected. > Managing the tens or hundreds of millions of code dating back to the 80s is not easy. It seems they should tackle an easier problem then. This one is, evidently, too hard for them. > When it's MS, the comments and moderation are always about malice and incompetence Incompetence, malice and... What would be the third explanation? > I remember someone on Reddit calling HN an Apple fanboy club It's been a long time since it's not.
- recoiledsnake 16y ago
  It's next to impossible to ship without bugs for something the scale of Office. Your comments seemed to blame Microsoft, so I was giving examples of bugs in other products that have nothing to do with MS. >Incompetence, malice and... What would be the third explanation? Nothing really, but my point was about all the negativity in the comments and moderation when it's MS vs. many other companies. I don't like Microsoft but I don't think they deserve such a raw deal while other companies get a free pass for very similar issues.

rbanffy 16y ago

Why are you implying that Apple and Google being fallible makes it OK to ship buggy software? It's not OK. It happens, regrettably, and has to be corrected. > Managing the tens or hundreds of millions of code dating back to the 80s is not easy. It seems they should tackle an easier problem then. This one is, evidently, too hard for them. > When it's MS, the comments and moderation are always about malice and incompetence Incompetence, malice and... What would be the third explanation? > I remember someone on Reddit calling HN an Apple fanboy club It's been a long time since it's not.

recoiledsnake 16y ago
It's next to impossible to ship without bugs for something the scale of Office. Your comments seemed to blame Microsoft, so I was giving examples of bugs in other products that have nothing to do with MS. >Incompetence, malice and... What would be the third explanation? Nothing really, but my point was about all the negativity in the comments and moderation when it's MS vs. many other companies. I don't like Microsoft but I don't think they deserve such a raw deal while other companies get a free pass for very similar issues.