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This article was about Tesla in the EU, and more specifically in Germany, where cheap SUVs start at €12,000. And where you can buy a family-friendly combi car f

This article was about Tesla in the EU, and more specifically in Germany, where cheap SUVs start at €12,000. And where you can buy a family-friendly combi car for as low as €10k in new. So Tesla is exclusively in the top 5% premium segment here. Most normal people won't even consider a car for half that price.

mprev 7y ago
What family car can you buy in Germany for €10k? The bottom spec Dacia that is on the price list only so they can claim that as the entry point?
- fxtentacle 7y ago
  You do a procedure called "re-import" to optimize taxes. With that, my sister bought her almost fully upgraded 7-seat Dacia minivan for roughly €10k. It does feel more like a workhorse than like a fancy toy, but you can nicely fit 2 parents, 2 grandparents, 3 kids, and enough luggage for a weekend trip in there.
tyfon 7y ago
If you want a family car in Norway be prepared to pay at least 3-400k NOK (€30-40k) after tax. A model 3 starts at 385k and is tax free. It's about the same price as an entry Toyota Avensis station wagon.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  Norway is clearly an exception to the usual situation in Europe, due to the very high taxes on purchasing (registering) a car, and the exemption to that tax for electric cars. Denmark also has the tax, but much less (if any, I don't remember) exemption.
  - tyfon 7y ago
    The exception in Norway is really only the VAT (25%) which is still a lot. But they will never have the CO2/NOX/cylinder volume tax that the fossils have. The VAT might come in a year or two but not the pollution tax. And the pollution tax will increase until 2025 when the sale of new fossils will be banned. However the article claims that the model 3 came in third in all of Europe behind the Golf and Clio, so it's selling well all over Europe not just Norway and the Netherlands. Norway is actually a smallish market now compared to what it used to be in market share for EVs.

mprev 7y ago

What family car can you buy in Germany for €10k? The bottom spec Dacia that is on the price list only so they can claim that as the entry point?

fxtentacle 7y ago
You do a procedure called "re-import" to optimize taxes. With that, my sister bought her almost fully upgraded 7-seat Dacia minivan for roughly €10k. It does feel more like a workhorse than like a fancy toy, but you can nicely fit 2 parents, 2 grandparents, 3 kids, and enough luggage for a weekend trip in there.

tyfon 7y ago

If you want a family car in Norway be prepared to pay at least 3-400k NOK (€30-40k) after tax. A model 3 starts at 385k and is tax free. It's about the same price as an entry Toyota Avensis station wagon.

Symbiote 7y ago
Norway is clearly an exception to the usual situation in Europe, due to the very high taxes on purchasing (registering) a car, and the exemption to that tax for electric cars. Denmark also has the tax, but much less (if any, I don't remember) exemption.
- tyfon 7y ago
  The exception in Norway is really only the VAT (25%) which is still a lot. But they will never have the CO2/NOX/cylinder volume tax that the fossils have. The VAT might come in a year or two but not the pollution tax. And the pollution tax will increase until 2025 when the sale of new fossils will be banned. However the article claims that the model 3 came in third in all of Europe behind the Golf and Clio, so it's selling well all over Europe not just Norway and the Netherlands. Norway is actually a smallish market now compared to what it used to be in market share for EVs.