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>Chinese internet companies wanting Western competitors to have a reputation for being slow and unreliable Someone from US chamber of commerce Shanghai mention

>Chinese internet companies wanting Western competitors to have a reputation for being slow and unreliable Someone from US chamber of commerce Shanghai mentioned one of the disadvantages of expats working in China is slower workflow due to dependence on throttled western internet. Foreign companies are already structurally slow compare to domestic companies, frequently having to negotiate management structures between different time zones and generally less agile due to having more bureaucratic layers. It's an assymetric problem for Chinese companies abroad, much less western expats have mandarin fluency compared to Chinese expats who tend to be multilingual. Sometimes English as modern lingua franca backfires. Similarly, many Chinese sites are banned or throttled from access when you live in the west, Chinese diaspora hilariously depend VPN to access many Chinese websites while abroad. One would think the Chinese government would want to make it less hard to stay connected with the diaspora, but it's probably weighted against risk of foreign influence.

IIAOPSW 7y ago
The only Chinese sites I know of that are blocked abroad are the ones that are distributing TV shows and other media without paying for the IP. I don't really think of those as the same thing, but if I were to put on my contrarian hat I suppose I would say there is no such thing as a priori illegitimate content which is universally accepted as ok to block. It is legitimate to block things which break the law, and the stuff which is blocked in either country breaks the laws of the respective regions. Taking my hat off, I think this is a false equivalence. Every country, nay every civilization ever, has laws against stealing. Theft is universally acknowledged as an illegitimate activity.
- yorwba 7y ago
  Some examples of links posted to HN which were accessible only from within China at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15462708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15462708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16406245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16406245 Chinese streaming sites like Bilibili that block non-Chinese users from watching certain shows are probably paying for the IP, but only have a license for China, so they need to block everyone else. You seem to be thinking about foreign governments blocking Chinese sites, but that's pretty insignificant compared to Chinese sites blocking foreign IPs from accessing them.

IIAOPSW 7y ago

The only Chinese sites I know of that are blocked abroad are the ones that are distributing TV shows and other media without paying for the IP. I don't really think of those as the same thing, but if I were to put on my contrarian hat I suppose I would say there is no such thing as a priori illegitimate content which is universally accepted as ok to block. It is legitimate to block things which break the law, and the stuff which is blocked in either country breaks the laws of the respective regions. Taking my hat off, I think this is a false equivalence. Every country, nay every civilization ever, has laws against stealing. Theft is universally acknowledged as an illegitimate activity.

yorwba 7y ago
Some examples of links posted to HN which were accessible only from within China at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15462708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15462708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16406245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16406245 Chinese streaming sites like Bilibili that block non-Chinese users from watching certain shows are probably paying for the IP, but only have a license for China, so they need to block everyone else. You seem to be thinking about foreign governments blocking Chinese sites, but that's pretty insignificant compared to Chinese sites blocking foreign IPs from accessing them.