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>without any other health issue I think people are underestimating what an over-capacity, health care system looks like and the increase in risk of other infec

>without any other health issue I think people are underestimating what an over-capacity, health care system looks like and the increase in risk of other infections can have.

bryanrasmussen 7y ago
right, as I understand the information from Italy right now emergency services are basically shut down because system overburdened. So as a healthy 30 year old, don't go do any of those healthy sports you like because you might get an injury and that's it then. Also patient 1 in Italy was a healthy marathon runner who at least ended up in intensive care, not sure if dead yet or not.
- giovan-ni 7y ago
  he is breathing on is own since yesterday, still hospitalized
  - bryanrasmussen 7y ago
    thanks for the info!
- lultimouomo 7y ago
  In Lombardy, the only region where the situation is critical at the moment, emergency service have NOT shut down. Non urgent procedures are suspended, both to spare doctors and nurses and to avoid creating new emergencies in case those procedures go wrong. ERs are not overwhelmed, ICUs are. You basically get in real trouble if you need a respirator - they're pretty much out of those and they have to assess your chance of survival to decide if they can tube you. Interestingly ERs are seeing much less load because people have stopped going there for stupid reasons, because they are afraid of catching COVID-19. All medical stuff is still busting their ass if course, a lot of them have been lended to ICUs, rooms have been repurposed, etc. This is not to say that the situation isn't bad. It's really bad. And if you think that your country has such a good health care system that it will hold better, you should know that Lombardy hospitals are top notch. Whatever your age, stop traveling. If there's been a single case in your region, stop risky behaviors now: don't go shopping, have it delivered. Work from home. Don't use public transit. Teach your parents how to shop online and force them to stay home. Don't shake hands and wash them often.
  - lbeltrame 7y ago
    > stop risky behaviors now: don't go shopping, have it delivered. As someone living in Milano, I'm afraid that if the panic in the government (as opposed to the population) keeps on going on, this won't be possible when they shut down almost everything (given that the rules change every 24h and no one knows how to properly follow them, let alone evaluate the effect of them).
    - lultimouomo 7y ago
      Just to clarify, my advice is for people living in barely affected zones. If your are in the middle of the emergency, things obviously change. It might not be possible to have food delivered within a reasonable time.
- sdiepend 7y ago
  Aren't top athletes often more at risk of getting sick due to stressing out their immune system?
  - BrandonMarc 7y ago
    Oh? That might explain the girl in Iran. Athlete in her 20s, died of covid-19.
    - remote_phone 7y ago
      That was false. Same name different person.

>without any other health issue I think people are underestimating what an over-capacity, health care system looks like and the increase in risk of other infections can have.

bryanrasmussen 7y ago

right, as I understand the information from Italy right now emergency services are basically shut down because system overburdened. So as a healthy 30 year old, don't go do any of those healthy sports you like because you might get an injury and that's it then. Also patient 1 in Italy was a healthy marathon runner who at least ended up in intensive care, not sure if dead yet or not.

giovan-ni 7y ago
he is breathing on is own since yesterday, still hospitalized
- bryanrasmussen 7y ago
  thanks for the info!
lultimouomo 7y ago
In Lombardy, the only region where the situation is critical at the moment, emergency service have NOT shut down. Non urgent procedures are suspended, both to spare doctors and nurses and to avoid creating new emergencies in case those procedures go wrong. ERs are not overwhelmed, ICUs are. You basically get in real trouble if you need a respirator - they're pretty much out of those and they have to assess your chance of survival to decide if they can tube you. Interestingly ERs are seeing much less load because people have stopped going there for stupid reasons, because they are afraid of catching COVID-19. All medical stuff is still busting their ass if course, a lot of them have been lended to ICUs, rooms have been repurposed, etc. This is not to say that the situation isn't bad. It's really bad. And if you think that your country has such a good health care system that it will hold better, you should know that Lombardy hospitals are top notch. Whatever your age, stop traveling. If there's been a single case in your region, stop risky behaviors now: don't go shopping, have it delivered. Work from home. Don't use public transit. Teach your parents how to shop online and force them to stay home. Don't shake hands and wash them often.
- lbeltrame 7y ago
  > stop risky behaviors now: don't go shopping, have it delivered. As someone living in Milano, I'm afraid that if the panic in the government (as opposed to the population) keeps on going on, this won't be possible when they shut down almost everything (given that the rules change every 24h and no one knows how to properly follow them, let alone evaluate the effect of them).
  - lultimouomo 7y ago
    Just to clarify, my advice is for people living in barely affected zones. If your are in the middle of the emergency, things obviously change. It might not be possible to have food delivered within a reasonable time.
sdiepend 7y ago
Aren't top athletes often more at risk of getting sick due to stressing out their immune system?
- BrandonMarc 7y ago
  Oh? That might explain the girl in Iran. Athlete in her 20s, died of covid-19.
  - remote_phone 7y ago
    That was false. Same name different person.