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You think it's more of a game changer than the $8500 used Nissan Leaf I bought (which, before you start, is perfect for me because I use it around town, and yes
by tardo99 7y ago
You think it's more of a game changer than the $8500 used Nissan Leaf I bought (which, before you start, is perfect for me because I use it around town, and yes it works fine for 95+% of my car trips, including 100% of my commuting miles)?
I'll tell you something. I'm sure enjoying having that extra $60k in my bank account that I saved by not buying a horribly overpriced depreciating asset.
- CydeWeys 7y agoYou're just making a general argument about buying used vs new. That's not interesting, or revelatory. It's just overly judgmental. And you're quite off on the price of a Model 3. I think you're confusing it for the Model S.
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- cjhopman 7y ago$60k that he claims is much closer to the ASP than the $35k that Tesla claims.
- sfblah 7y agoIt’s impossible to buy a used Tesla for anywhere close to $8500. I find the comparison compelling.
- CydeWeys 7y agoBecause they're better cars than the Leaf and thus maintain resale value better. The Leaf isn't coming out on top in this comparison. There's a reason some things are worth more than others.
- rootusrootus 7y agoFriend of mine is a Leaf enthusiast and even he concedes it's pretty awful. It could have been great, but the batteries degrade so fast you can practically watch the range decrease with every drive.
- bsder 7y agoYou're not going to sway the people who were going to be buying a BMW or Mercedes with that argument. Car buying is a LOT of signalling. There is a reason for the stereotypes surrounding people who buy those types of cars.
- xedeon 7y ago> You're not going to sway the people who were going to be buying a BMW or Mercedes with that argument. Did you not read the article? Also: https://twitter.com/thirdrowtesla/status/1236678690462765057 https://twitter.com/thirdrowtesla/status/1236678690462765057
- bsder 7y agoThe comment I was replying to was extolling the virtues of buying a Nissan Leaf. The people interested in buying a BMW are not going to be swayed by "cost effectiveness" arguments.
- mardifoufs 7y agoWhat's the range on the used leaf you bought? Maybe 100 miles without AC/heating? There's a reason why the Leaf didn't succeed in the way Tesla did, and it's not all because of Musk. Also, a new model 3 is 40k, and Teslas depreciate a lot less than a Nissan. But I do agree that buying brand new is generally a bad idea imo
- mark-r 7y agoBuying a used Tesla might not be a great choice, because they've locked it down so you're forced to use their repair shops instead of 3rd party. That's going to increase your cash outlay in a way you weren't expecting.
- barkingtoad 7y agoMost common car repairs 2015: Replacing an oxygen sensor – $249 - Teslas don't have these Replacing a catalytic converter – $1,153 - Teslas don't have these Replacing ignition coil(s) and spark plug(s) – $390 - Teslas don't have these Tightening or replacing a fuel cap – $15 - Teslas have a charging port cover, and it breaks Thermostat replacement – $210 - Teslas don't have these (in engines) Replacing ignition coil(s) – $236 - Teslas don't have these Mass air flow sensor replacement – $382 - Teslas don't have these Replacing spark plug wire(s) and spark plug(s) – $331 - Teslas don't have these Replacing evaporative emissions (EVAP) purge control valve – $168 - Teslas don't have these Replacing evaporate emissions (EVAP) purging solenoid – $184 - Teslas don't have these